Well I gave it another shot. Wanted something for around the house sitting at my computer. It works just as good in the car!! Made out of .6 and .9 Kydex it clips to my gun belt. It's not a paddle holster. My gun belt is super thick at 3/8. Here it over laps so it's 3/4 thick!! sorry for all the pic's... looking over the beer gut :mrgreen: :beer: And lastly sitting..... CHEERS!!!!!!! I hope everyone has a great new year!!!