What are the legal ramifications of converting a rifle into a pistol?

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Narsil, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. Narsil

    Narsil Premium Member

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    I know the majority of you guys aren't lawyers so I know all I'm getting is your opinion. I've researched it briefly and can't find an answer.

    I know converting a pistol to a rifle or SBR is a legal PITA but what's the scoop on taking a woden-stocked milsurp rifle, cutting the barrel down to an SBR length and cutting the stock off to a pistol grip?
     
  2. apvbguy

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    refer to federal laws, some conversions are either illegal or need a class 3 license
     

  3. xthexheadx

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    i'm fairly certain you have to FORM 1 the firearm before you can shorten the barrel.... even without the stock in place, it's still considered a rifle, so taking the barrel down below the 16" mark makes it an SBR...
     
  4. Narsil

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    So turning a Mosin Nagant into an Obrez pistol is technically an SBR?
     
  5. xthexheadx

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    to my understanding, YES. the way the regulations for SBR's are written, it only matters what length the barrel is..... not the stock length or whether is has a stock @ all. of course, you could contact the creator of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNFsUvh078I by sending him a PM through youtube. his many comments and description of the one he created - and registered.... are consistent with that of an SBR...

    see also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zn2MIgGbNE
     
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  6. xthexheadx

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  7. Narsil

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    Well, shucks...It seems a pity to pay over twice what the conversion costs, including the donor rifle just for the stupid tax stamp. :cuss:
     
  8. darksidemxer

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    form 1's are suppossed to be cheaper. i talked to the guy that owns serbu super shorties and he said its not that expensive...did u know he lives in the bay area? maybe he can help or this company here has helped when i had nfa questions. 727 481 7154
     
  9. Narsil

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    I knew Serbu was located in Tampa but didn't consider contacting them. I'll do that after the holidays; thanks, Ed!

    The Serbu Super Shorty is designated as an AOW and requires only a $5 tax stamp, BTW.
     
  10. darksidemxer

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    right because its a shotgun with the stock removed and a shortened barrel. isnt that what u are doing? the shotgun was once rifle length also.....a sbr would be a rifle *with a shoulder stock for stability etc* and shortened barrel so it should be a aow.....atleast thats how this nagant pistol cannon thing was explained to me by spikes tactical.
     
  11. xthexheadx

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    incorrect, they are classified as AOW because they came from the factory with a PISTOL GRIP in place.... they have never had a shoulder stock installed on them. otherwise it would be a short-barreled shotgun...

    as stated on the product page of the serbu website:
    "The SUPER-SHORTY is based on a Mossberg Maverick (also available on Mossberg 500 or Remington 870 at additional cost) 12-gauge shotgun which came from the factory with a pistol grip. Because of this, the SUPER-SHORTY is considered an AOW (Any Other Weapon)"
     
  12. darksidemxer

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    guess jj at spikes needs to read up lol good sales guy bad info man.
     
  13. khoff

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    i believe once they leave the factory floor as a rifle they are allways from then on considered a rifle. it MUST then be registered-nfa tax stamp- as a short barreled rifle if you want to cut the barrel less than 16 in. 200 dollar 3 to 6 month wait tax stamp and registration.