Trigger Removal

Discussion in 'M, C, L and S Series' started by Guest, Aug 21, 2005.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Step 7 on the trigger removal tutorial reads as follows:

    Step 7: While the manual safety catch spring is pulled up, use a small punch or other tool to push the manual safety engagement lever out of the frame.

    Is some degree of force required here, or am I pushing on the wrong part. It looks like the two ends, of the lever/axle/pin that needs to be removed, are the same two ends that are pulled down to engage the manual safety. Correct? I'm a little shy about wacking that area with a hammer and punch.

    Also, is there information available on removing the firing pin? The process is referred to frequently, but either I'm using the wrong search word combination, or I'm being unusually dense (this one gets my vote), and can't find the instructions. Thanks!!
     
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Geeeez....hid the firing pin info in the "Maintenance" section....devilishly clever!
     

  3. hihoslva

    hihoslva New Member

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    For the safety bar, you are pushing on the correct part. It may require a bit of force to get out.

    Make sure that you have the spring lifted completely off the bar (this is what they tell you to use the paperclip for). You should see the small notch that the spring fits into - that notch is in the safety bar itself. If the spring is still in that notch, you're not getting the bar removed.

    I usually use the key supplied with the gun to get it started, using the key to apply pressure to one side of the bar. Once it breaks free a little bit, you should be able to pull it out by hand; possibly with a pair of pliers if necessary. Try both sides - if it won't budge one way, try the other way - it will come out on either side.

    You shouldn't need a hammer to get it out unless yours is unusually stuck. Keep at it - I know mine was a bit of a pain the first time, too.
     
  4. bigbob68

    bigbob68 New Member

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    I use the paper clip as recomended and it just drops out when I turn it on its side. I find no force of anykind is necessary.
     
  5. hihoslva

    hihoslva New Member

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    See, I find that interesting, as the pin on both my S9 & M9 require at least a little force to slid out of the frame.
     
  6. uncle_walty

    uncle_walty New Member

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    With the spring lifted enough, I push one end in with my finger so I can then have enough to grip the other end with my fingers to pull it out. After it is pushed in from one end, don't need to keep lifting the spring since the notch has cleared. Same for my M9, S9 and M357.
     
  7. bigtaco

    bigtaco Active Member

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    i use the key to get it started, but it usually keeps right on going into my lap.
     
  8. Guest

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    Mine was very tight , I had to use a wooden dowel to get it out the first couple of times, much easier now.
     
  9. hiramabiff

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    Should this manual safety engagement lever in pix 7 be coming-off from one side of the frame or inside of the frame where you will be needing the paperclip?
     
  10. hiramabiff

    hiramabiff New Member

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    got it! So it should be from the outside but which side?

    .... and reverse process to put it back.... insert the lever or a portion thereof on which side [does it matter which side to insert it]?

    the instruction on step 6... gently pull up on the exposed end of the manual safety catch spring*.
    * i hope the picture of manual safety catch spring was included on the pix after it was removed from the frame... and how am I suppose to put it back? or was this spring* in the action carrier? :wink:

    Sorry guys Im at work.... dont have the M9 with me. My computer at home is down! .... need your patience...

    was that the no. 28 part in the manual, the paper clip should it be applied to the no. 27 part? .... :arrow: :oops:

    I have to rehearse everhing in my brain before I do anything....

    I want to clean my baby... its now a white elephant.. but just for now.

    Will give you a range report on Monday, hopefully.
     
  11. hiramabiff

    hiramabiff New Member

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    I was not reading.... hihoslva said " it will come out on either side.! perhaps the notch that he mentioned is the no. 27 part?
     
  12. bigtaco

    bigtaco Active Member

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    allrighty then.

    check out the diagram in the back of your manual. 27,28,and 25 are all one assembly that is held in the sub-frame by pin number 29.

    you can see one other hole in part number 25 and that is the hole that #26 slides through.

    spring number 28 hangs off the forward (muzzle) end of #25.

    as far as i can tell, the only purpose of #28 is to hold the manual safety engagement lever #26 in the gun via the little notch in it which the spring rides in.

    the notch is cut into the lever #26, and is the little perpendicular line in the drawing.

    with the paper clip, you pull up on the exposed end of spring #28 to get the spring out of the notch in #26. while pulling up, start the lever out of the frame in either direction by pushing on it with your finger.

    now you can let go of the paper clip because the notch is no longer holding the lever in. use a little screwdriver or punch to lightly push it the rest of the way out.

    part 27 is just the white piece of plastic that acts as an indicator.
     
  13. hiramabiff

    hiramabiff New Member

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    I got pretty busy with work after my last post....

    Yes, I was able to disassemble it perfectly... THANKS!

    Thanks bigtaco and to everyone here!

    Got it finally broken down and second issue was putting it back!

    I learned that I have to lift the slide catch when putting back the disassembly lever so that the slide catch spring would move up allowing the lever to enter perfectly [the slide catch spring blocks the deadend entrance, I saw it as I was wondering how couldnt I fully insert the disassembly lever back]. Took me a while to realize it as I peeped into the hole for the lever I saw this "wire", which was part of the catch spring, moved the catch and it disappeared. Spent about two sticks of cigarettes with my nervous hands to move on! :oops:

    Cleaned it the night before the day to the range.

    Im still busy at work. I had two sessions at the range after the cleaning. The first was the 24th of September and the second was on the 29th. The range report that I posted was just of the 24th.