Tormented by the #20 trigger spring

Discussion in 'Maintenance / Tweaks / Technical Difficulties / So' started by Ramshackle, Dec 5, 2005.

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  1. Dec 5, 2005 #1
    Ramshackle

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    I've done trigger work on 1911s, revolvers and Glocks (a piece of cake). In fact, I can almost take apart 1911s and Glocks in my sleep.

    Having just bought a Steyr I was unimpressed with the rough trigger. Using the tutorial on this site I decided to take it apart to see if I could polish some internals to make it lighter and smoother. BIG MISTAKE!!!!

    I followed the directions in the tutorial and disassembled the M9 pretty easily. I lightly polished what I thought might make a difference and tried to put the gun back together. This is where my 2-day nightmare began. I'm totally humbled!!! I can't figure out how the *.%^ #20 spring goes back into the trigger.

    The tutorial talks about orienting the spring: "the funky shaped end goes into the trigger with the straight end sticking out." First, the whole spring is funky so I don't know what "the funky end" means. Is that the part with the 90 deg. bent leg? Does the leg of the spring lay on top of the trigger or does it actually go THROUGH (there seems to be a way to cram it under and through the trigger)? A photo of the correct way the spring lays onto or goes through the trigger would help immensely.

    The rest of the gun is easy to put back together. Also, I understand that the new M1A Steyr doesn't have the manual lock. Often when I drop the slide on a mag the manual lock drops down. Is there a simple way to deactivate or remove it?
     
    Ramshackle, Dec 5, 2005
    Ramshackle, Dec 5, 2005
  3. Dec 5, 2005 #2
    RiceCakes

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    look here first

    Are you talking about the spring in the bottom middle left, that looks kind of like an "S"? If so, it drops into the trigger in the exact orientation shown. then the other end is caught against the action frame. it spring loads the "glock safety" It took me awhile to figure that one out, it is quite tricky.
    -Good Luck with it.
     
    RiceCakes, Dec 5, 2005
    RiceCakes, Dec 5, 2005

  5. Dec 5, 2005 #3
    hiramabiff

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    well... I find the trigger to be not that perfectly smooth but mine is accurate at 15 yards... grouping of just about an inch! :wink:

    what I am saying is ... I have adjusted myself with its trigger.
     
    hiramabiff, Dec 5, 2005
    hiramabiff, Dec 5, 2005
  6. Dec 6, 2005 #4
    bigtaco

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    i debated for a long time how to acurately describe #20's orientation. rice cakes is right.

    you've got a circle in the middle. above the circle is a straight piece, below the circle is a bent piece. the bent piece will go into the trigger. the straight piece of the spring must dog against the crossmember in the subframe.

    does this help?
     
    bigtaco, Dec 6, 2005
    bigtaco, Dec 6, 2005
  7. Dec 6, 2005 #5
    RiceCakes

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    Perhaps we need some video footage of this op. bigtaco :wink:
     
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  8. Dec 6, 2005 #6
    bigtaco

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    as i was doing this with my friend's killer camera, the thought crossed my mind.

    if one other person suggests it, (this could be you ramshackle) consider it done.

    i truly think it would be beneficial, it would be less than a minute for full disassembly and again less than a minute for full reassembly.

    what do you think about audio commentary? perhaps some choice vernacular when the sear snaps into a finger?

    i'm sure we could tweak resolutions and such that even those with dial-up could download the video no sweat, those with broadband could stream it all day long.

    hey deluxe, is this possible?
     
    bigtaco, Dec 6, 2005
    bigtaco, Dec 6, 2005
  9. Dec 6, 2005 #7
    Deluxe247

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    Send me the footage and I'll see what I can do. MiniDV or uncompressed AVI/Quicktime should do. That way I can create just about anything I want from it.

    -D
     
    Deluxe247, Dec 6, 2005
    Deluxe247, Dec 6, 2005
  10. Dec 6, 2005 #8
    Ramshackle

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    Sounds great. Footage would help.
     
    Ramshackle, Dec 6, 2005
    Ramshackle, Dec 6, 2005
  11. Dec 6, 2005 #9
    bigtaco

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    you got it
     
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  12. Dec 6, 2005 #10
    Shooter

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    That would be awesome bigtaco.....

    as far as the manual safety goes, you can take it out......you will have a hole or you can fill it in.... that is one of my projects that I intend on photo-ing sometime...my safety came on mysteriously once too....
     
    Shooter, Dec 6, 2005
    Shooter, Dec 6, 2005
  13. Dec 7, 2005 #11
    RiceCakes

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    Sorry to nominate you bogitaco, I was msotly joking with you :oops:

    Glad to see you took it up though! =D>
     
    RiceCakes, Dec 7, 2005
    RiceCakes, Dec 7, 2005
  14. Dec 7, 2005 #12
    bigtaco

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    i like doing stuff like that!!!

    especially when i can help someone out.
     
    bigtaco, Dec 7, 2005
    bigtaco, Dec 7, 2005
  15. Dec 7, 2005 #13
    madecov

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    Hell, maybe sell the footage to AGI and we can have an Armorers video :lol:
     
    madecov, Dec 7, 2005
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  16. Dec 7, 2005 #14
    Shooter

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    Make your own Steyr video..... :!: Sell it yourself... :idea:
     
    Shooter, Dec 7, 2005
    Shooter, Dec 7, 2005