The Christening!

Discussion in 'AUG, MSAR' started by Guest, Mar 28, 2005.

  1. Guest

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    I guess I get to be the one to "deflower" the AUG forum on this new site. It's my first time, too, so go gentle on me. Just as an FYI, I am a rabid AUG fan/owner/shooter/collector. I have a pretty substantial gun collection themed on foreign/imported assault-type weapons (ex: AUGs, FN FALs and FNC, Galil, Valmet, HK, etc.), but the AUG is far and away my favorite for reasons that have been beaten to death on more than one occasion (however, I'd be happy to list them again if prodded :lol: ). Anyway, congrats to those who set this site up, and I hope to converse and share info and learn more about this fine weapon system. Take care all.
     
  2. Deluxe247

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    Welcome! We have been waiting for the AUG contingent to show up...
     

  3. WorldPax

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    Definitely welcome! I need to study up on the Aug's. I've always been aware of them and been a fan, just never researched them. Can you get them in the US? Are they horribly expensive?
     
  4. CGuns

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    Greetings, are you from Steyr-Aug.com?

    Welcome to our forum!

    Nice collection. I will have to post some pics of my toys...you have good taste.

    What model Galil do you have? I was going a build with a Ohio Rapid Fire receiver, but this receiver is absolute garbage. So, I am looking for a Norinco Hunter to do a Galil build on....Copied receiver from Galil and Valmet Hunter.

    All the best, CGuns :)
     
  5. Guest

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    Greetings, WorldPax. Yes, you can get the AUG and USR (post ban version) in the US. You will pay a premium.....anywhere from around $3,000 min for a used green matching numbers AUG to upwards of $5,300 for a NIB black matching numbers AUG-P. Sad but true, so if you see one for a good price, snap it up before I do!
     
  6. Guest

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    Right back at ya, CGuns. Yes, I have been to, and posted on Steyr-AUG.com, that's how I found out about this site. Thanks for the complement on my collection......thank God I have a very understanding wife (in my defense, I have sold and traded my way to upgrading my collection to where it is now). The model Galil I have is an NIB ARM model 372, very low serial number. I had a shooter 392 but sold it for.....you guessed it.......an AUG purchase. The Galil is second only to the Valmet when it comes to the AK type rifle. IMHO the Valmet is like the Rolls Royce of AKs. On the other hand, I've read several posts on AR15.com from happy ORF customers, however I cannot comment on this because I have no personal experience with them.
     
  7. CGuns

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    I can send you pictures, but, I have a full machine shop and the amount of help the IMI clone ORF receiver needs is astronomical.
    I had gone all out and sourced fancy SADF (South African Defense Force) R4/R5 (That is the model for their version of the Galil, which is built tougher than IMI's for the African bush) parts kits and now, I can't build it on a true Galil receiver. I am still trying to track down a Norinco Hunter as a donor rifle. Agreed, the Valmet and the Galil are Rolls-Royce versions of the AK...and, to some extent, you can add in the Sig 550/551/552...though the 552 is the closest to a direct replica of the Kalashnikov mechanism than the 550/551.

    Nice to see you here. I'd love it if you could help get the word around about this site. I have been speaking with Steyr Mannlicher Austria and USA and they are intently watching and listening. Some talk too about releasing another AUG for the civillian market...Would provide a much nicer alternative to an AR-15/FN2000.

    CGuns
     
  8. WorldPax

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    So what's the ball-park on one where the numbers don't match. Is a non-matching one just as functional as one where they do. Me, I'm not a collector and should probably leave the really nice stuff for the serious folk. I'd just like to have a nice functional shooter.
     
  9. CGuns

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    You will have to forgive me, I am familiar with the ARM model of the Galil, this is the bipod and long barrel model.

    Is your model chambered in .223 or .308?

    If it is .223, what are you turning at 100 yards with her?

    The 1:12 barrel twist suggests that it is more comfortable with lighter loads, but I haven't really experimented with one and bullet weights.

    The Norinco Hunter is 7.62x39 and I believe IMI offers an export version of the Galil in 7.62x39, in addition to 7.62x51 and 5.56x45

    -CGuns
     
  10. CGuns

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    You also have to factor in the Flat Top receiver options....those were quite rare. I believe that is the "P" version, for Police...
    EDIT: with Shortened Barrel, I think

    The USR is basically a sporter version of the Aug A2. If memory serves, it has much more in common mechanically with the A2 than the A1. Save for the extra "thumb web", USR serial number Prefix for ATF and gray furniture, it is basically an A2 flat top...

    The Swarovski optics are great, but, with the great amount of sophisticated red dot site systems around and available, these make the rifle even more versatile than with the integrated optics.

    -CGuns
     
  11. Guest

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    My Galil ARM is chambered in .223, as it is NIB I have not ran her at all. The 392, also .223 cal, held about 6" or so at 100, though I usually shot it at much closer ranges. The AUG-P was made and imported initially for police applications due to its amazingly short overall length of 27". My AUG-P's are all A1, which means they have integral 1.5x donut of death optics. There are 38 black matching numbers AUG A2's in the USA according to Pete Athens at PJ's Steyr AUG (great man!!!). Those are the ones with the option of replacing the Swarovski optics with a picatinny rail for versatility.....those are damn expensive, too. Anywhere from $5,000 for a used one to over $7,000 for NIB.

    WorldPax......you can get a non-matching numbers AUG for less dough, however even those, used, have gone for over $2,500. Your best bet would be to scour the Sturm board and Subguns.com. If I come across one, I can let you know, too. Good luck.
     
  12. CGuns

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    What is the Sturm board?
    Can you please post a link?

    I will have to post some pics of my Steyr rifle and pistol collection...
    I need to get a Steyr SPP....My Calico is more fun though. :)
     
  13. Guest

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    Sorry about my cryptic speak.......it's actually Sturmgewehr (German for Storm rifle...hence, "assault rifle"). It's http://www.Sturmgewehr.com. Check the "semi-auto marketboard", occasionally a good deal will pop up, but lately, AUGs have been as rare as hen's teeth on that site. Good luck.
     
  14. CGuns

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    Ahhh...now that makes sense.
    I have bought parts off of that board before.
    Thanks again,

    CGuns

    P.S. WorldPax, that IS a great resource if you are looking to get an Aug....might want to check it out.
     
  15. WorldPax

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    Bit rich for my blood right now, I'll start a personal Aug fund and hit you up when it get's in range. Thanks for the info.
     
  16. Guest

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    WorldPax....I like your vid thingy.
     
  17. WorldPax

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    Thanks, I don't make'em, just happen across them.
     
  18. Ripped

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    Welcome to the site.. :) Glad to have you.
     
  19. Guest

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    Thanks, glad to be here!
     
  20. Guest

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    Dont have an AUG but am lusting after one, does that count?

    Rocker