[mikey]

For the Steyroid who has everything, how about a Steyr SPP semi-auto machinepistol?

I’d never seen one before, so here’s the listing:

http://www.arizonashooting.com/forums/v ... php?t=8344

Now, I truly need a SPP about as much as I need warts, but if I had a little money to throw away, I’d almost seriously consider it, because it’s something you just don't see every day!

 

[Syntax360]

That's really cool - I wish I had an extra $1k sitting around. Think you could get away with carrying that in the winter?

 

[MrApathy]

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[Mortech]

$1K ?? Didn't they used to retail for about $800 ?

 

[KYGrousehunter]

This thread is as good as any for my thoughts about the SPP.

I purchased mine for just under $700 way back in the day. I sold it a couple of years ago, almost doubling my $$$.

It was quite a shooter. The sights were marginal as they were very low to the housing, but were surprisingly effective. It was extremely accurate.

What really stunned me was that the power was nearly double as compared to what my SIg P226 would do with the same ammo. This was probably due to the big compensator on the front (in which the barrel would slide in). I had both a 15 rnd mag and a 30 rnd.

Taking it apart and putting back together was not an easy task, it took some "fineggilling." If you ever worked on IEC contactors, you know what I'm talking about.

The way the action worked was hard to believe. It was like quasi recoil gas operated rotating barrel something or other and was truly ingenious. It was the most dependable arm I had ever shot. It never ever did anything but spit cases out hard and put new ones back in place.

Recoil was almost non-existent. Pointability was top notch. The trigger really sucked. The trigger became worse as time went on. The sear was on a vertical post, and broke sideways. The pull wasn't hard, but had a strange feel to it. It had a very plastic feel, like taking the lid off of a tupperware container, or opening a ziplock bag. The slide lock was hard to operate.

After a while, I just couldn't find a practical use and I parted with it. It was neat to have for a while, and I do miss it from time to time. I don't feel any less armed not having it in my arsenal.

 

[ThaiBoxer]

I always wanted a Steyr TMP buzzgun to have, maybe for using in SMG matches. It was reported to be an excellent design that stayed on target well. The military couldn't wrap their heads around what a nifty PDW it would be, and Steyr sold the design. The Army never seems to understand PDW, and screws up every time. My Class 3 buddy has a sample of nearly everything, but has never even seen one of these.

 

[Netfotoj]

Pardon my ignorance, but is/was the SPP identical to the Brugger & Thomet TP-9?

Just curious. The TP-9 lists for $1,250 and I think Buzz just recently bought one, but our semi-retarded site search feature can't find any references to TP-9. :mrgreen:

 

[ThaiBoxer]

The SPP is the Americanized, semiauto version of the TMP. Steyr sold the design to B&T, who added a rail. IMO, anything in this design, other than a full auto SMG with the front grip, is a waste of $$ and space.

TMP:

SSP:

 

[babj615]

Pardon my ignorance, but is/was the SPP identical to the Brugger & Thomet TP-9?

Just curious. The TP-9 lists for $1,250 and I think Buzz just recently bought one, but our semi-retarded site search feature can't find any references to TP-9. :mrgreen:

Hey Net,

That baby is definitely on my "To Do" List.....

:mrgreen:

 

[ThaiBoxer]

That baby is definitely on my "To Do" List.....

:mrgreen:

babj,
Looks like now there is only one "grey" left to fill in your collection silhouetes?

 

[ThaiBoxer]

A retraction of a duplicate post retracted by the Department of Reduncy Department.

 

[babj615]

babj,
Looks like now there is only one "grey" left to fill in your collection silhouetes?

That is correct, Ben.

:beer:

 

[Buzz]

Yes, I did acquire the new Brugger & Thomet TP-9. For the record, to me the gun is anything but a waste. B&T took the old Steyr guns and updated them considerably. The first thing that they did was greatly improve Steyr's abysmal trigger. I spoke with DSArms and this was a priority as the complaints about the Steyr trigger were huge. They also added a housing on the rear that makes it simple to add a folding stock, which is very reasonably priced and available from DSArms with a tax stamp. The front "muzzle break" has been changed for ease of fitting a proprietary suppressor. A close friend of mine who is in the suppressor biz tells me that non-proprietary suppressors can be fitted as well.

As to the gun being a waste in semi-auto form, I don't see it that way. Just shooting the gun stock provides a fun experience and is very accurate with it's long barrel. Thirty rounds is a lot of lead, and the gun balances beautifully. Add to that the one point sling and the hold becomes rock steady. Add to that a stock and foregrip on the rail that has been added and you have one slick little carbine. I'm sure the gun is wonderful in full auto, but I certainly can't discount the value of the semi-auto for that reason. I suppose if I was an operator I'd want the full auto, but my reality doesn't require it to find the gun a welcome addition to my shooting experience.

Buzz