stainless guide rods

Discussion in 'Maintenance / Tweaks / Technical Difficulties / So' started by MrApathy, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. MrApathy

    MrApathy Active Member

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    not sure if Jack Ashe still makes guide rods for steyr. dont see them listed on his site. was a custom deal.

    http://www.bedair.org/P226/Guiderod.html

    Steve Bedair

    just found a website guy claims he will make custom guide rods out of 304 stainless

    may be worth looking into
     
  2. FightDesigner

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    How big a difference does a stainless guide rod make? Just curious- never tinkered with my guns like that.

    Keep us posted, anyway...
     

  3. ScottW

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    Stainless guide rods are stronger and flex less than plastic. They also weigh more, and the extra weight at the front of the gun helps reduce muzzle flip. You can get tungsten rods that are even heavier than stainless steel. The recoil & flip reduction properties make them an illegal modification in some pistol shooting competitions. Haven't tried one in the M9 though since I can't say I find recoil or muzzle flip to be a problem. But, for only $25 I might try one out just for gits and shiggles, or just to have around as a spare should something happen to the plastic one.
     
  4. Guest

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    FYI: I contacted Steve and he informed me that he does not make steel/tungsten guide rods for our gun because the Steyr rod/spring is a "captive" unit. He only makes these rods for non-captive guide rods. :(
     
  5. MrApathy

    MrApathy Active Member

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    my main M40 has the capture piece of plastic broke so its no longer a captured guide rod its not bad then again strong fingers help.

    yeah muzzle flip in my M40 with fullhouse loads is nothing the plastic guide rod works fine for me but nice to have a spare.

    on tungsten I am worried about hardness and possible peaning. it could add to wear.

    in competition it depends on the class your in. some want bone stock gun with no additions and mods to minimum.

    lighter or heavier spring could help some Steyr's out.
     
  6. ScottW

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    There's a pic of a stainless guide rod made for a Steyr on Jack Ash's web page and it's a non-captive type. It was probably made to the same diameter and OAL just without the front spring capture part. The captive spring makes reassembly slightly easier, OTOH it makes it more difficult to experiment with different recoil springs. But the gun will run fine with a non-captive rod.
     
  7. bigtaco

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    i don't understand why these guys can't just tap the end with a #4 and red locktite in a captive plate. wouldn't vibrate loose. if you want to take it apart, grab a propane torch.

    done. captive. sexy. the rod's in the lathe anyway, probably with a center, which means it already has a hole started.

    maybe that's what i'll do. maybe i'll make a sandwich.
     
  8. Wulf

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    Damn! Das what I'm talkin' bout, BT. :p Make it happen, Bro.

    Wulf <-- 1st in the BT Stainless Samich line
     
  9. bigtaco

    bigtaco Active Member

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    right now the lathe is strung up to the I beams while the floor dries. but that sandwich was good and i have no shortage of stainless drops and #4 screws.
     
  10. aubie515

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    BT,

    I hope you can produce the rods faster and have better CS than JackAsh...that dude is horrible with CS and I refuse to buy anything from him EVER.

    I do like the SS guide rods, but if I must use the factory one, than so be it.
     
  11. RiceCakes

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    I wouldn't mind getting a sexy sandwich either! Does anyone know offhand what the weight increase would be? My g/f loves to shoot those damned front heavy 1911's with their great big slow recoil. Go figure. Maybe if I put a little weight in front she'll quit whining about it. :roll:
    Oh yeah, and GOOD THING she's not a member here!!