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Discussion in 'Carry Issues' started by FightDesigner, Oct 11, 2005.
Just curious... when you guys concealed carry, do you carry spare mags, and how?
Yes. Off side in a spare carrier. Usually it's a combo Cuff/magazine case. Sometimes it's a combo flashlight/mag case. I do feel better with cuffs than with a flashlight.
I've got a IWB tuckable on order for my M40, and was wondering what the best solution was for an equally concealable spare mag... probably just sticking it in my pocket, but do I need to have a mag cover or pocket holster for it then, to keep lint and stuff out?
Not much point in having a totally concealed firearm and a visible mag pouch, although I guess it would be in accordance with the law...
All theoretical at this point, since I don't regularly carry yet, but hopefully within the next year I'll be either a police officer or CCW holder. Preferrably the first. Still waiting to hear back about the background check, which should have wrapped up last week- wish me luck!
As it is understood by us all that this is really a personal preference, I typically determine how much extra to carry based upon what the pistol holds, mag capacity plus the one in the chamber. I have been comfortable with just the basic amount in the pistol if that is 15 or more. When I carry a small frame 9mm with only 8 to 10 rounds in the pistol, I try to carry at least one more mag. One aspect of shoulder holsters that I think is great is the ability to have a double mag pouch on the off side, so when you grab your rig and throw it on, you automatically have a couple of extra mags with you without making a conscious effort to grab something else, in the case of the Steyr M or A1 or Walther P99, this gives you an incredible amount of ammo/firepower at hand if needed, 46 rounds for the Steyr (if using the new 15 round mags), 49 rounds for the Walther, that is a lot to carry ! Just my thoughts.
Depending on where youre going and wearing, you might consider a good pouch which will carry a minimum of one mag plus room for more and accesories. With a holster, I use a double mag pouch, whether 9, 40, or 45..... I'm not sure I would have any use for cuffs, not being in law enforcement. I do have a flashlight in the gun pouch. I use a very light sleeveless windbreaker to cover the holster. Goes good with most casal clothing in hot florida weather. Extra mag in the pocket would work, since it wouldn't be oily or dirty. Wouldn't have that exposed, it may not be illegal, but it would be a dead giveaway.
Some knife pouches that have a cover will carry a magazine and be very unobtrusive.
Something like a leatherman pouch.
never carried spare mags. If 10+1 isn't enough I'm probably already dead :?
Always carry at least one spare magazine. It is unlikely I'll ever have to do a reload, but if I have a malfunction, I want another magazine to help me get the gun back into service.
Carry on the off side in a magazine pouch.
When I carry my Kahr MK9, I carry a second mag in my front left pocket ... with my Steyr, I usualy don't carry a second mag, but when I do it goes into the same pocket.
One pair of jeans I have, I've sewn a line up the middle of the pocket so the spare mag stands upright (plan on doing this to all my pants whenver I get around to it).
Spare mag concealment
I have heard certain military operators use the phrase "Two guns is one gun and one gun is no gun" or something like that, refering to a "dead-man's-jam" or other serious malfunction. I have to say I agree, and I believe the same is true of mags. That spare mag just might give you a second chance. I've thought about using a cell-phone pouch to carry a spare, hidden in plain sight, or maybe a light weight pouch with a small clip in the front pocket to look like a pocket knife a lot of us carry. I carry my spare in a pocket, but really don't like it that way. Sewing the pocket is a great idea Zundfolge, I'll look into that. While we're at it, has anybody found a good tuckable holster for the M-40?
I've got an HBE tuckable on order (whoah, type carefully- accidentally hit f instead of t first try there).
I'm also thinking about hooking up a wallet chain or something like that to one of the two belt loops, just to try to disguise it a little more.
I pack my S9 with 2 spare 10-rd mags in my right front pocket (nothing else in that pocket) positioned so I can pull one out in the proper position for insertion. As far as 2=1 and 1=none, sometimes I carry a 2nd piece too, or at least suitable bladed weapon. I carry a .38 snubbie in my bathrobe because the S9 is just a bit too big to draw quickly.
I carry a total of three so called "high capacity" magazines (I hate that term).
I carry one in the Steyr M40 and two in a side holster on my off side. Yes, I know that it is unlikely that I would ever need three total mags, but I"d rather have them and not need them than need them and not have them. Where I live its cold most the time anyways so its not a problem to conceal them.
REVJEN...cracking me up man a .38 in your bathrobe are ya serious? I have a feeling REVJEN has stinger missles in his basement or at least an RPG in the trunk of his car.
I carry at least one spare magazine on or off-duty depending on the circumstances.
My usual off-duty carry gear consists of one or two Kahr 9mms backed-up by two spare seven round magazines.
If I carry my S40, I usually back that up with a 12 round M40 magazine.
What about the idea of carrying different ammo in different mags?
Hollowpoint in one, fmj in another or something? Dunno... maybe you feel the need to stop a car or something, and want to switch out of jhp?
Your not going to want to use fmj on the street........it could go down the street and across town. The LEO's use Gold Dots or Rangers to go through cars, winshields etc. These keep their integrity. Now you could load up with Gold Dots in one and maybe something like Silver tips which are not as solid in another mag, but frankly that gets complicated. Better off using a Gold Dot type ammo for both.........they hold their integrity and open up fairly well.......Again, there are other types of ammo that are very good.......Golden Sabres, Federal, just as long as its quality ammo for the street........
I'm with FlaChef on this one, I generally don't carry spare mags, if I need more than 12 rounds then I'm in a situation I shouldn't have been in the first place. As for malfunctions, my M40 has never had a single one in more than 1500 rounds. None. I know there is a first time for everything and Murphy's laws of combat, etc, but I carry one in the pipe and feel 100% confident that I'll get at least one shot off and considering the incredible accuracy of the piece I'm confident enough that I can either end the situation or at least buy myself an opportunity to get the heck out of it. I just picked up a Colt Mustang in .380, and depending on the reliability of the piece I may carry an extra mag for it when and if I start carrying it.
If I lived in Florida or some place with sunlight than I wouldn't wear my extra mags because they be one more thing that might risk a print and show that I'm carrying a weapon. However, in my part of the country I could probably carry an anti-tank weapon concealed if I felt like it.
As for carrying different types of ammunition in different mags....well, I don't know about you, but when I reload I'm going pretty fast and I doubt that I would have the presence of mind in a high stress situation to distinguish between what mag has my JHP and what has my EFMJ, FMJ, etc. I tend to carry one type of round and mostly its my JHP in the summer and EFMJ in the winter months.
If I carry an extra mag, it is usually in my front pocket.
Decent HP ammo (like CorBon etc.) will pass right through a windshield or door skin with ease, there are few likely scenarios where a private citizen would ever benefit from carrying FMJ ammo, but there are significant potential downsides.
As for extra mags, I carry one when weather/appearal make it easy. I warmer weather when I'm not wearing a cover garment or something with large pockets I don't bother. I never feel at a loss for ammo, having 11 rounds should be more than adequate in most likely situations, it's more a matter of having an option to recover from a malfunction. Certainly it is a good idea to carry a spare when it is convenient.