Shot my 1st IPSC today. Came in second to last, 8 of 9. Had a few stages were I was middle of the pack. I shot Limited class with 12 rd mags in my MA1-40, but the second place guy shot production with a M&P 9mm. The guys all shot pretty fast. With regard to the IPSC vs IDPA brouha over "reality-based" or "which be mo betta", IMHO... Plus: the IPSC is fast and a lot of shooting. If you want to drop a mag that has a round in it, by all means do so. No time wasting with the "reloads with retention". Race guns are cool, but I can admire them without wanting one. IPSC was a bit mory gamelike, and a bit less "rule-hassle". Minus: There were a few times where you stood in front of 5 targets and shot before moving to the next part, and I thought that screamed "shooting game". The IPSC course was more farfetched than the most farfetched IDPA course I've seen, one course had 10 targets to engage with 3 shots/target. No attention given to whether to you were exposed to fire from targets that you were apparently justified in shooting, by the same token, you had to keep your feet inside the Bianchi barricade "box", even though you were leaning around to engage the target. It's hard to imagine Col Cooper preferring IPSC over IDPA, were he to see both and considering his interest in practicality. I do think that IDPA is closer to "CCW-useful training" than IPSC. Whether that means anything, I dunno. Got some good tips from guys afterwards, apparently I dip my gun down between targets "Miami Vice style" and especially when moving, instead of pulling it back in toward my chest, that was useful info. They playfully "made fun" of my Weaver stance, isoceles is preferred. I actually like the isoceles if wearing armor, but for a regular Joe, I'd rather be angled to the target and that's how I learned to box, anyway. A .40 Steyr is a good IDPA gun, I think it is weak for IPSC unless you do Limited 10. The mag capacity is low relative to other gamer guns.