Problems a plenty

Discussion in 'Maintenance / Tweaks / Technical Difficulties / So' started by Matches, Jun 18, 2005.

  1. Matches

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    Having extraction/feed problems I decided it was time to clean the extractor. upon dissassembly I found no visible gunk/grime, but since it was apart I cleaned it anyways. I now have about 1K rounds thru my M9 and continue to have problems. The first 100 or so rounds are no problem, but sometime after that I get all sorts problmes with roundsfeeding and fireing(see Brown Bear ammo review). I havel, so far, had no problem, manually cycling a round. A bit more disturbing is when the slide does not move all the way forward (.5 inch or less). I can manually push the slide forward (no resistance) and fire the round with no problems.

    This is my first semi auto pistol. Since the first 100+ rounds of a session go thru with no problems it leads me to believe there is an issue other than mechanical. Either it functions poorly when dirty or perhaps there is a heat problem. If anyone has any suggestions I am all ears.

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  2. madecov

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    One problem is probably the ammo
    Brown bear is russian and while probably not a bad ammo in general it is based on a steel case. I'm not sure if the brown bear uses a laquer sealant like Wolf does, but that may be an issue.

    I would try 2 -3 different types of American and European ammo. Winchester, federal, PMC, S&B, Fiochii, even my least favorite Blazer. If at that point your still having problems it rules out ammo related issues.
     

  3. FlaChef

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    yup, that stuff is known to be DIRTY, in the same calss as wolf.

    fine for a glock, but like you say after 100+ rounds w/ no cleaning...

    I periodicly go 400-500 rounds of wwb no problems, 700 rounds once (but usually only 200-300).
     
  4. madecov

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    Most I put through my M40 in one session was about 400 rounds. I had one failure that was ammo related. The whole gun locked up. after that I kept shooting without issue.
     
  5. hihoslva

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    I, too, would try other ammo and see if it helps.

    While WWB is not the be-all-end-all of ammo, it is cheap and has been extremely reliable for me and many other Steyr owners.

    Another thing to consider - especially in combination with dirt/heat - is shooter fatigue. You will shoot differently after 100+ rounds, as your hands and wrists get tired. Limp-wristing can cause all kinds of issues with slide cycling, and will increase when you get tired.'

    Start with new ammo and go from there.
     
  6. Matches

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    Thanks for the replies. As far as other ammos, the Brown Bear was another ammo. I'm trying to find an alternative to Walmart and their WWB. Their prices are seductivley low and, as I'm finding out, hard to beat for a similar quality ammo. Oh well, I'll continue the quest.


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  7. hihoslva

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    Did you have the same issues with WWB?
     
  8. Matches

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    Yes, I had the same problems with WWB, but not the same magnitude.


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  9. Matches

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    Pistol seems to love Blazer aluminium. Feeds fine and accuracy is great. This will probably be my target ammo of choice. Unfortunately the trigger is not reseting. After the 1st round it takes 2 or three times of pulling and releasing the trigger for it to reset and actually fire and it feels really rough or gritty. I am just going to send this sucker in for a professional to check it out.

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  10. FlaChef

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  11. madecov

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    The info on the Steyr repair center is stickied on the site here somewhere.
    Call them. Send the gun to them.
     
  12. Matches

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    It's a Davidson's purchased gun so I am sending it back to them and let them take care of it. Hopefully they can get it repaired because I really dont like the fell of the new M9A1 in my hand.

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  13. madecov

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    Surprising, I like the feel of the A1 better than the M
     
  14. ministerofdeath

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    I just saw another thread where a guy sent his Steyr in for service and sounds like they are doing one hell of a job in finding the problem and fixing it. They even brought in an Austrian engineer according to the thread.
     
  15. Matches

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    Just dropped of the M9 Friday. They said it would be sent back to Davidsons on Monday. Let the waiting begin.

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  16. madecov

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    Keep us informed
     
  17. hiramabiff

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    We're waiting... hoping that it would be back in your hands soon! :wink:
     
  18. Matches

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    Stopped by the gun shop today. They called Davidsons, but the guy handling this had left for the day. He is supposed to call back tomorrow with an update. I am getting a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach on this one, but I am a patient man and will wait and see how this plays out.

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  19. Matches

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    I have not heard back from anyone so I called Davidsons today. They were having trouble finding the repair order and had to call me back. I am told the pistol was sent to Steyr for repair and they are closed for the holidays. They attempted to sound me out about a replacement. I really do get the feeling I will never see this M9 again :cry: .

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  20. madecov

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    You'll see it again, or maybe a new one.
    The serial number is in your name. One way or another it has to get back to you.
    If Davidsons doesn't honor the warranty, you may have a suit in small claims.
    keep buggin them