M9 in shop for 3 months finally got to range

Discussion in 'Maintenance / Tweaks / Technical Difficulties / So' started by Matches, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. Matches

    Matches New Member

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    After 3 months without my M9 my hand has forgoten what it felt like. I had asked when I picked the gun up what repairs had been made. (trigger was not resetting consistently) They did not know, no info was sent back. The gun was clean an well oiled and this was the only thing I noticed.

    At the range today it continues to have trouble resetting. I was wondering if this was a user error thing (riding trigger), but I got a range officer to try it but he experieced the same thing. He was impressed with the crisp pull of the trigger when it did work (dry firing). I will try to take it out at least once more and make some calls to try and find out what was done (if any thing). I dont want to send it back again, but I certainly dont want a pistol that may or may not be ready for a follow up shot.

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  2. ministerofdeath

    ministerofdeath New Member

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    Shoot Matches!

    You've been so patient and now it looks like they didn't do much to that pistol after three whole months. They should just replace it with a new one at this point or an A1 if there isn't a new M-9 laying around there.

    I hope you get this situation taken care of and that Steyr Arm bends over backwards to help you 1) learn what they did other than cleaning the thing, and 2) help you get back off the range with a pistol that works as soon as possible.

    Good Luck.
     

  3. bigtaco

    bigtaco Active Member

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    to tell you the truth matches... that was my exact experience. i sent both of mine to the old repair guy. he sent 'em back, and they still didn't work. at which point i got serious about figuring out this beast myself.

    maybe you could just order all new springs and install them, since they actually have parts now. (hopefully in your case they'll be free.) it may fix the problem. if that doesn't do it, there's definitely a burr somewhere. probably on the face of the post.

    if you check out the trigger reset tutorial you could at least figure out where you problem lies.
     
  4. ScottW

    ScottW New Member

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    My M9 had a few trigger reset malfs within the first 600 rounds or so. I got impatient waiting for it to fix itself with break-in, so I went through bigtaco's tutorial.

    With mine, I was getting a little clicking noise from the sear area while pulling the trigger on an uncocked pistol. I removed the trigger group so I could get a look at what was clicking, and it was the trigger bar hitting a ridge on the bottom of the sear. Following the tutorial, I checked the bend in the trigger bar and sure enough, the angle was a little off so the bar rode higher up in the sear than normal. The long segment of the trigger bar was also slightly less than straight/flat so that wasn't helping either. I didn't use fancy combo squares like bigtaco shows; I just used some vise grips (with pieces of cloth over the jaws to prevent marring the metal) and bent it down a smidge. I also flexed the trigger bar downwards a bit to take a little oomph out of that spring inside the trigger that lifts the bar upwards.

    Basically, I did section 2 of bigtaco's tutorial. Last trip to the range I had zero reset malfs in approx 350 rounds. If I can duplicate that on my next range trip, I'm calling her fixed. 8)

    Not being a factory authorized repair technician, I don't really know what they look for when you send in your gun. In my case, there were no significant metal burrs, weak springs, or really obvious manufacturing defects, just a bend that was a hair off and a barely detectable twist in the trigger bar. Two very little things that combined to produce an intermittent problem. I imagine if I had sent mine in for repair, they might not have fixed mine either.

    You da man bigtaco. You could probably make a little cash on the side tuning up Steyrs. :wink:
     
  5. bigtaco

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    i've OFTEN considered that.

    i'm not sure what type of red tape would be involved in receiving handguns at my house. madecov probably knows a bit about moving firearms around legally.

    i really don't want too much liability if someone's steyr ad's or kb's.

    plus, why pay shipping when it's actually really easy to tear into it yourself and save a little dough?

    when i started these tutorials i had a little internal goal that the steyr repair center would use them as a square one for training the new guy. maybe they do? but why would matches' gun come back not fixed?

    if matches fixes his own gun after sending it to steyr it would be really funny. let us know if you need any help matches.
     
  6. ministerofdeath

    ministerofdeath New Member

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    Yeah,

    Amen to the ABOVE....if you need any help take some picture, if you can, and post them up and maybe we can help you get things going here.

    Of course, I really think at this point Steyr should just replace that pistol and give ya new one.
     
  7. Matches

    Matches New Member

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    I'm sure I can get it replaced (its a Davidsons purchase) but it would not be an M9, it would be a M9A1. This is my first pistol and I fell a bit sentimental about it. I am also one of the few if not only person who prefers the feel of the M9 over the A1.

    Matches
     
  8. bigtaco

    bigtaco Active Member

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    okay... so let's fix it.

    you've been so patient through this process. you've remained supportive of the brand and the firearm despite the fact that it hasn't been very nice to you yet..

    no one on this sight has ended up with a trigger that would not reset, despite many people starting out that way.

    that you will be different i highly doubt.

    i consider it my personal duty to see to it that your steyr m9 functions flawlessly.

    go through the reset tutorial and ask all the questions you want.

    i promise we'll get that bad boy up and running for ipsc!!!
     
  9. Matches

    Matches New Member

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    Went back to the range and the problem was defintiely less pronounced. I was getting maybe 1 fail to reset per magazine instead of 3-4 a magazine. This is a bit encouraging. I will be attemting the trigger tutorials, probably next week. Where can I find 1000 grit sandpaper? Also can you give more info on what kind/application of sandpaper to use. I'm guessing it's not wood and probably not general use .