M9 and PT Night Sights win SSP Division in Major IDPA Match

Discussion in 'M, C, L and S Series' started by Guest, Apr 12, 2006.

  1. Guest

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    Hi folks,

    Some of you may know that I contacted PT Night Sights a few months ago because I was interested in getting night sights for my Steyr M9 and S9. They were generous enough to give us a group buy on their various night sight configurations. The S9 is my carry gun and the M9 is my IDPA gun and I was specifically interested in preparing for this year's Virginia Indoor Regional IDPA Championship (March 23-26), which was to have 5 stages completely dark and 5 stages with the lights on.

    I previously posted about how well the PT Night Sights worked for me with their conventional sight picture. Well, I am very happy to report that I won the SSP Division of the match and came in 3rd overall with the M9 and PT Night Sights. Results can be found here: http://www.ncrr.net/IDPA/2006 VIR/results/results.htm

    There were 5 completely dark stages where the only light provided was your personal tactical light and night sights were clearly a necessity. The green rear horizontal bar/front dot configuration worked fantastically for me and allowed fast, clear sight alignment - simply placing the dot over the bar and pressing the trigger ensured the rounds went where the sight picture was positioned. After this match I have all the confidence in my S9 carry gun that has the exact same sights and handling characteristics. And with officer-involved shooting stats saying over 80% of incidents occur in low-light, this is a must-have upgrade for your carry gun, IMHO.

    Unfortunately there is no video of the completely dark stages, but here is one video with the lights on (right click on the file and select "Copy to Folder..." to save to your hard drive for best performance): ftp://ftp.digisette.com/pub/Temp/IDPA/VA_Indoor_IDPA_Championship/
    I got a terrible draw on this stage, which required you to disarm a mannequin (which started the moving targets and exposed others) and knock it down before drawing your weapon and engaging the targets. After fumbling with the draw and almost knocking down the barrel barricade, I took a long time to engage the swinging bad guys (which required 3 hits each) but at least I didn't hit the swinging no-shoot in front of them!

    Anyone have any links to free video capture software? I have a DVD of some video that other people shot with more lights-on stages. If I knew how to convert portions of the video to mpegs I would post them to show the Steyr domination!

    Thanks

    Jeff
     
  2. Deluxe247

    Deluxe247 Supporting Member

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    Congrats Jeff. Nice to see the Steyr (and you) taking home the bragging rights. If you want, I work with video on a regular basis and I could rip some clips for you if you want to send me a copy of the DVD. Let me know.

    -D
     

  3. Guest

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    Thanks Deluxe, now I have to see how to copy this disc with the videos! PM me your mailing address so I can send it.

    Jeff
     
  4. ministerofdeath

    ministerofdeath New Member

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    Nice post JNG!

    Yeah, I really like those PT night sights and I also really like the price you guys paid to purchase them and have them installed. I paid about $90.00 for my night sights from USA Steyr for my M-40 and then I had to pay an armorer another $35.00 to install them. When it is time for me to put new night sights on I'm going for the PT ones for sure. On the plus side the night sights I purchased from USA Steyr are still bright as the day they were delivered.

    I've had a few "what the heck is that" scenarios in the middle of the night and I'm certainly glad I had night sights. In pitch black it is almost impossible to get a sight picture from the Factory Traps. Although, I loved the Factor Trap sights and REALLY wish at some point they'll have night sight versions.
     
  5. Guest

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    Thanks MOD, I'm glad your USA Steyr night sights are working well for you. I'm sure you would be pleased with the PTs, the bonus is that you can select from the myriad of dot and/or bar configurations and colors they offer.

    I shot a night match last year with my Glock 34 (gasp!) that has Dawson Precision sights with a fiber-optic front. Those sights that are unbeatable during the day were absolutely useless at night. There was one stage that didn't allow you to use a tactical light, only the ambient light barely cast by small LED strobes indicating the position of the targets. I couldn't see the sights at all until the first shot was fired and then thought I was indexing correctly as I watched for the position of the sights and target every time the gun flashed from firing. After the stage was over I was confident that some of the hits were right on - but I was WAY off and had a majority of complete misses. If that was an actual gunfight, not only would I have NOT neutralized the threat, I would have been responsible for all the missed rounds and whatever they did hit beyond the target.

    Night sights are where it's at - no doubt here.

    Jeff
     
  6. srfl

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    Excellent job Jeff....congrats!!
     
  7. Deluxe247

    Deluxe247 Supporting Member

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    PM sent...

    -D
     
  8. Thunderbear

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    Awesome vid, Jeff!

    That stage looked like a lot of fun, and I think I might use it to get a friend of mine into IDPA with me. Was that here around Raleigh?

    Congratulations.


    Oh, and how did the DigiLight perform? :lol:
     
  9. Wulf

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    Attaboy, Jeff! :)
     
  10. Guest

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    Thanks again guys. Thunderbear - of course the DigiLight saw me through the 5 dark stages well enough! I used the newly redesigned 1000XB with 2-stage momentary/click tail cap instead of the more powerful NT9, T9 and T12 lights (175/227 Lumens). It is a slightly smaller light and I liked to be able to reload quickly without the light getting in the way and 70 lumens is quite enough in the totally blacked-out conditions in the indoor range in Virginia. If you want to shoot the local matches, the best outdoor match is here: http://www.the-range.com. The Range in Oxford also has an annual outdoor low-light match with is absolutely fantastic. Also, PDHSC on Tryon Road south of Downtown has an indoor IDPA match on the 2nd Saturday and I think they may do some low-light stages every so often.

    I've got 2 major State matches coming up and I'm ashamed to say I'm torn between shooting the M9 again or my Glock 34 with Dawson Fiber front/adjustable target rear. These are outdoor matches with likely longer shots that are just that much easier to make faster with the better sights and much longer sight radius.

    Will Steyr ever come out with a "Tactical/Competition" version with a 5-5.4" barrel in both 9mm and .40? I know I would use it EXCLUSIVELY in IDPA and IPSC.

    Shoot safe and have fun!

    Jeff
     
  11. IDPASteyr

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    Jeff, The Texas State Match in being held June 3 in Houston. Come on down and I promise you'll have a good time. This is going to be one of the toughest IDPA matches ever and will really make you sweat.
     
  12. Guest

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    Hiya! Haven't talked to you in a while, I hope all is well. It's great that you mention the TX State match, I am in contact with Bill Dittoe about sponsoring the match. I am tentatively planning to fly in on June 2 and shoot the match and fly back out on the 3rd. The Carolina Cup is also that weekend and that is my home match so I have to be there for that.

    I look forward to catching up with you finally! I guess I will have to shoot the Steyr at the TX match if we get together!

    Jeff
     
  13. IDPASteyr

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    Jeff, I will be shooting the match on Friday as well, so let's make sure we squad together. I'll PM you my contact information. I also appreciate your willingness to sponsor the match. Thanks.
     
  14. FlaChef

    FlaChef Guest

    FL state match is june 23 in Leesburg, FL at an indoor range.

    There will be one dark and two low-light stages.
    About a dozen spots left (cap of 80 shooters due to being indoors).