LCI and ejection problems POLL (please vote)

Discussion in 'M, C, L and S Series' started by Gray_Wolf, Jul 28, 2006.

How do you store your gun? Please read the post first.

  1. empty chamber - no erratic ejection and/or FFEs

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  2. empty chamber - have/had erratic ejection or FFEs

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  3. loaded - no erratic ejection or FFEs

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  4. loaded - have/had erratic ejection and/or FFEs

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  1. Gray_Wolf

    Gray_Wolf New Member

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    I was thinking about the loaded chamber indicator (LCI) and its relation to erratic ejection and failure to eject (FTE) problems that aren't that uncommon with Steyr pistols esp. when they're new...

    It looks like some people had problems at first but they went away. If the LCI is the reason for those types of problems it would make sense that after LCI spring had loosened up issues would diminish or disappear.

    I am one of the people who experienced erratic ejection and FTE problems (later only with reloads). Last time I was at the range with my M9-A1 I noticed that ejection is now noticeably more consistent than it was before. Which made me wonder if people who didn't have these problems kept one on the chamber (or a stored the gun with a snap cap) and thus loosed up LCI spring.


    About the Poll;

    Answers in the poll refer to when the gun was new (or say under 1000 rounds max)

    if you ONLY loaded the gun at the range and never stored the gun with a snap cap pick one of 2 "empty chamber" options

    if you stored with a snap cap and/or stored or caried the gun loaded pick one of 2 'loaded' options
     
  2. Deluxe247

    Deluxe247 Supporting Member

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    Actually, this would not make a difference. A spring wears out by the motion of being compressed and uncompressed.

    It's just like your mag springs. Leaving a mag full for extended periods of time will not wear them out. The actual use; reloading/emptying will.

    More on springs: http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_99130369

    I agree that when any pistol is new that it needs to be broken in and that would directly affect the reliability of the weapon at first. Any spring in the gun will need to seat and all the parts must "learn" to work with each other before you will get something consistent.

    It would be hard to say that one particular spring or combination is the culprit. All guns wear/operate differently at first. Some Steyr's might have problems with the LCI and it's spring or the extractor or both. But like I said, when new, you have to expect this until it is broken in. There is no set amount of time or rounds that you could say "This weapon is now broken in." They are all different. Mine was a little erratic for the first 600 or so rounds but now works great and I have almost 8k through it. Someone else might have had to go through twice as much for theirs to be considered broken in. Like you stated, as things loosen up (break in) the weapon will work as intended.

    -D
     

  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    STORED GUNS

    I keep my s9 stored chamberd i dont have any kids in the house,I keep my glock 17 full clip empty chamber,my steyr would be the fist gun to grab if i had unwanted company.I was wondering if anyone out there had any extra s9 mags for sale?
     
  4. steyrile

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    I've not had any probs with my m9 which still needs a bit of seasoning to consider well broken in. I like the LCI feature, have put my EAA Winess away in favor of the m9, readily at hand but generally left unchambered (less chance I do something stupid!).
    I recently carried the m9 while on vacation visiting friends 11-hours away by car and since they have teenagers, used the integral key lock just in case they got curious. Difficult to find a design or operational flaw in my sample so far... heck, I love the push/pull safety and would like to see it restored on the newer models.
    Uncle Lunchmeat
     
  5. celsee

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    My first 700 rnds thru my m9 had a consistent 2-3 fte's per 50; as I reload I had noticed the lci put a pimple right on the edge, so after a 100 rnds or so I filed the lci down; did not change my fte's at all.

    Since stiffening my extractor spring at 700 rnds I have shot 1000 rnds without ANY fte's or any other problems. Nice. 8)
     
  6. MadCow

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    My M9 has never jammed, ftf, fte it has always worked perfectly with wwb & reloads. Has about 3k rnds through it.
     
  7. Guest

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    my original m40 has been stored and carried loaded for about 4-5 continuous years with no problems after the original problems were correct by the company.
     
  8. Guest

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    This problem and its subsequent resolution likely have nothing to do with the weapon and everything to do with the shooter. My Steyr was problematic for its prior owner who swore Steyr meant "Widowmaker" in Austrian. He swore it stovepiped every other round. I put allot of ammo through my M40 and just about every time I let someone new shoot it they have a failure. If you grip a Steyr the wrong way or especially if you limp wrist it, it will jam allot. I'd would suggest that the break in period described here applies to the shooter more than the weapon. If Steyr springs become noticeably weaker after a thousand rounds then mine would be powder by now.
     
  9. Gray_Wolf

    Gray_Wolf New Member

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    then what about erratic egection? I doubt this is user related; he was probably using ammo the gun didn’t like. Mine never malefactions with factory, but with reloads jams 1-3 times a box. (I will try other bullets soon, hopefully they will work better…)

    I’m more accurate when I hold the gun with 3 fingers (bottom two barely touching the gun) not sure if that counts as limp wristing, but my Beretta never complained...