homemade Fiber optic sight now with pic's

Discussion in 'M, C, L and S Series' started by armored, Jul 9, 2006.

  1. armored

    armored New Member

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    I took my M9A1 back to the range today to really give it a work out. I previously had only shot it once before running 100 rounds of Blazer Brass through it for its maiden outing. It performed perfect at that outing.
    After that range trip I took the gun apart and did some of the tweeks that are posted in the tuitorials. I reassembled it using a thin coat of TW25 grease on the sear area and the rails and trigger area and a very light coat on the firing pin assembly. I was VERY happy with the results when I dry fired it.

    Today at the range I feed 250 rnds of UMC thru it, loading up 2- 15 rnd mags and 4- 10 rnd mags. I shot the first 100 rnds at a fast pace and got the gun hot. I had about 3 failures to extract in this first group. I ran a bore brush down the barrel and fired another 100 rnds about as fast as the previous 100. Again about 3 failure to extract. I then ran a brush down the barrel again and fired off 50 more. I had 2 failure to extract with that group. All FTE were with various mags.

    I then left the gun hot and dirty and fired 100 fast rounds of Blazer Brass thru, NO problems.

    Conclusion; After 200 rounds of Blazer Brass NO problems, after 250 rounds of UMC about 8 FTE. No more UMC if I can help it.

    Also, as I was shooting I noticed the trigger getting more and more gritty with more creep and the pull wieght getting noticeably heavier.

    I don't think the TW-25 grease is up to the high temps of a fast, high round count, shooting session. I will try a new lube when I clean and re-assemble Sunday.

    On a side note, I took a stock front sight(trapazoid), removed the white insert and drilled a .60 hole all the way thru. I then ground the center out leaving just the front and back of the sight with no middle. I inserted a red fiber optic rod in the hole and mushroomed both ends with a lighter to hold it in place. The front(facing your eye) mushroomed and filled the top of the triangle. It worked GREAT! If you thought the front sight was fast to pick up before you would be amazed at how fast it is to pick-up whith a glowing red dot.This was indoor shooting, I can't wait to try it outside at the next IDPA shoot. If I can figure out how to post pictures I'll post the set-up. I wish Steyr made a taller front sight so I could have the dot appear at bullet impact instead of at 6:00. But at 30 ft or so its close enough.
     
  2. drsmith58

    drsmith58 New Member

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    SIghts?

    Has any one used the XS sights like on a Charles Daly polymer? and if so what did you think about them
     

  3. Wulf

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    Bravo, Armored! :)

    Is what I envisioned for the front sight, but the 0.60" rod seems kinda big. Of course, the HiViz rod I've seen at Wal-Mart and local gunshops are for vented rib shotguns and seems a bit large in diameter for the front sight. Even more critical for the backs. Jerrie at PT said her engineers were concerned that the sights didn't have enough "meat" for the rod. Way I see it, you've done something to further evolve this rig and I salute you. "Pix...pix...we want pix. Pix...pix...we want pix....". Wulf <-- leadin' the pack in an enthusiastic fans' chant. ;) Plz keep us in the loop. Hava great weekend and g'luck at the next comp.

    Wulf
     
  4. MrApathy

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    sounds like fun day shooting minus the umc issues.

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  5. Gray_Wolf

    Gray_Wolf New Member

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    just wondering did you have any brass to the face issues?
     
  6. armored

    armored New Member

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    The hole I drilled will take a .60 dia fiber optic rod. I researched the differant sight Co. to see what they use on there handgun front sights and found .60 the norm. I could not find any fiber optic rod suppliers that offered a luminecnt rod that is larger than .60.
    In fact, the rod I used was a .40 dia. rod that I have a supply of for my Dawson Fiber optic sight mounted on my Sig P220ST. It is loose in the channel but works. I ordered more rod in differant colors and dia. should be here next week. When you mushroom the ends of the rod the swelling will expand the rod alot. Its easy to vary the size of the dot you want.

    I don.t see a problem with there not being enought "meat". The wieght of the rod is practicaly nothing. It doesent have enough weight to require alot of "meat" to hold it.

    If you remove the white plastic trangle in the front sight you will find that it is THICK and is held in with a plastic stud that plugs into the sight. When you remove( i used a heated jewelers screw driver to melt it out) the insert you just continue to drill the hole that holds the white insert. It is in the perfect position for the fiber optic rod(on top of the triangle and the right dia.), and searves as a drill guide. Just finish drilling till you come out the front. Grind out the middle, and insert the tube.

    I'll have to get one of my kids to post some pic's.
    I will look up the place I ordered the rod from and post there address. It was only about $3.00 for 40" of .60 and .40 rod.

    As far as brass coming back in my face. I did have a few that bounced of my Baseball cap, but only with the UMC.
     
  7. Wulf

    Wulf Premium Member

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    Heya Armored :)

    I was kinda wanting to leave the front triangle on the sight and drill a smaller hole thru it near the apex to install the rod, thinkin' that I could have my cake and eat it too. The same with the back sight, as well...making a kind of 3 dot set up for low lighting situations and the tri-traps for sufficient lighting. Course, I could just be thinking from a place of ignorance, not having done the drilling, grinding, and rod installing. I'd love to have just a bit of that light rod to experiment with...something yellow or white and in the 0.40" size, for sure for the back sights. Anyway, thanx for the info.

    Wulf
     
  8. armored

    armored New Member

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    pictures I hope

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  9. FlaChef

    FlaChef Guest

    AACK!!
    I justread this thread and the images all say "oops! image no longer there" and the photobucket logo.

    Actually I wonder about using an iron so you have a smooth surface for your fiber optic's front insert.
     
  10. armored

    armored New Member

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    The images come up when I view.
    I will re post new images this weekend. I just recieved some thicker .60 fiber optic rod that will work better. I will also track down the camera manual so I can set the macro function correctly.