[flyandscuba]

Any P7 fans here? It seems the Steyr has a limited -- but dedicated -- following, similar to the "Cult" of the P7.

Although I think highly of my three Steyrs, I've got to say my P7s are still -- by far -- my favorite.

 

[flyandscuba]

Ha! Not made of money -- just been adding to the collection over many years. Sometimes I joke about my P7s being part of my retirement fund because of the way they've appreciated in price. Of the 9, the 2 Jubilee M8s (still unfired of course -- only 500 made) are may favorite in appearance. But in terms of a shooter, one of my M10s (the other is unfired) has to be my favorite -- by far one of the most accurate and mildest shooting .40s that I've ever fired.

The only thing missing from my collection is the P7K3. Doubtful if I'll ever add one due to the buffer issues with that particular model -- and the high price tag it draws due to very limited production.

The next best investment has been the P7M10 -- only 4K made it to the USA (only 1K of those were blue). The P7M13 has begun to increase significantly in value since "normal" production was ceased in 2005.

For concealed carry, I still prefer one of the P7 (PSP) models. Slightly smaller, without the heat shield, and employing a European magazine release. One of those was my first P7s -- that quickly got me hooked into the P7 cult.

Yes, they do get hot after a few magazines of ammunition fired quickly. But then, it wasn't really intended to be an extended use range gun -- rather a self defense weapon system. Even though I've used a few of them in multi-day training courses, the heat has not been a problem for me. Then again, the heating issue is a good excuse to have more than one P7! 8)

 

[flyandscuba]

bigtaco,

I cam across a NIB or at least LNIB Chantilly P7M8 today. If it isn't NIB, it is the nicest LNIB I've come across -- the gas cylinder was cleaner than my confirmed NIB Jubilees.

I considered picking it up tomorrow -- as the price is excellent at $1275.

However, so I won't be considered to be hording another P7 :wink: I'll offer the dealer's name and location to you via PM if you'd like to pick it up.

As you know, the last of these are making it to the US -- and finding a Chantilly-era example in this condition -- and for this price, is pretty rare.

Let me know if you are interested.

Regards.

 

[flyandscuba]

Yes, the P7 has perfection...the 110 degree grip angle... :wink:

 

[flyandscuba]

Many feel the Chantilly era P7s tend to be of higher quality. I have a couple and to me -- they all seem to be finely crafted firearms. I think it is similar to those cherishing the earlier S&W pinned and recessed revolvers over the later products.

Get another -- you can't have too many P7s. Of course the only leather worthy of P7 carry is made either by Matt DelFatti, Mitch Rosen, or Milt Sparks... :wink:

 

[flyandscuba]

Ah....the P7M10....by far the mildest shooting, most accurate 40 S&W pistol I own...

This is #241 -- my shooter. I sold another NIB safe queen I owned (#2281), but for $2900. Since there were only 4000 or so sold in the USA -- they've appreciated in value quite a bit.

 

[flyandscuba]

Here's the entire collection... 8)

 

[flyandscuba]

Once you fire one -- and experience the exceptional accuracy -- you'll be hooked.

Sadly, the events of this week have proven that 9mm is an effective cartridge against humans...

The P7 PSP remains my favorite CCW -- over the P7M8 -- simply because of its slightly smalled dimensions. Although I always carry a spare magazine, the European heel release doesn't concern me much -- because most self-defense shoots do not involve a reload...

With 8 +1 rounds of 127 gr +P+ Ranger T SXT ammo, I never feel under gunned.

 

[flyandscuba]

I highly recommend the HK P7 PSP as a concealed carry weapon -- my personal favorite!

 

[flyandscuba]

Trust me -- if you've never shot a P7 before, and get one of these -- you'll soon forget about all those other pistols once you complete your first range session with the P7.

My first P7-series pistol was a German Border Patrol trade-in that I paid $700 for back in 2003. It was a spontaneous buy while traveling on business. I bought it in Tallahassee and took it to the Bass Pro Range in Hollywood as soon as I checked into my hotel.

The photo below was the very first 8 rounds fired! Needless to say, I was a member of the Cult immediately and although I enjoy my other firearms -- my favorite remains the P7s. Even as I type, a P7M8 is on my belt, stoked with Ranger T +P+ ammo...

 

[flyandscuba]

Nope -- 7 to 10 yards. That's where I do most of my self defense shooting practice...

As seen here with the Steyr...

Or, Kahr P45...

Or, HK Tactical...

(Training provided by Randy Cain of Cumberland Tactics)

:lol:

 

[flyandscuba]

Borrow the money -- see if they'll let you do 90 days, same-as-cash -- etc. Actually, if he has two (and these are M8s) -- buy both on credit and then list one of them for sale on gunbroker.com for $999....trust me, it will sell. You'll then have a P7M8 you investly a little more than $200 in...

Find a way -- there are anymore of these -- and none for that type of price, refurb or not.

 

[flyandscuba]

Yep, your last description mentioned a mag release on the heel of the grip...

That changes things a bit -- meaning the pistols are P7 PSPs, rather than P7M8s.

$600 each is a fair market price for the latest group of import P7s. IF they had been P7M8s, my initial recommendation would stand.

BTW, I have two P7 PSPs in my P7-series collection -- that model still remains my favorite carry version of the P7...

 

[flyandscuba]

No, the frames of the two pistols are totally different. The PSP has a shorter trigger guard with no heat shield. In some ways, many feel that makes it the better choice for concealability.

The P7M13, and P7M10 share the same frame. The P7M8, P7 PSP and the P7K3 have three other distinct frame designs.

 

[flyandscuba]

Actually, CDNN has (or had) quite a few of these at slightly better prices.

HK Trussville is giving them the once-over and grading them. They also have the HK Trussville import mark on the slide. All should be completely functional when they leave HKUSA. A newly reprinted owner's manual comes with the gun but because they are police trade-ins (used guns) I do not believe they have a warranty.

If I didn't already have two of the P7 PSPs in my collection, I would have snapped up a couple (thought about it for an investment anyway). To this day, I still prefer to carry my original P7 German Border Patrol trade-in as a CCW over my M8, M13, or M10.

Guys, at these prices there really is no reason not to acquire one of these fine pistols. Most will agree it is the best 9mm carry gun they have ever fired...

 

[flyandscuba]

The scraper is used to clean out the carbon/slag from the gas chamber that the gas piston slide in. The P7 PSP does not typically come with a scraper -- but does come with a small metal tool for use as an aid in removing the firning pin bushing.