[Guest]

cheaper but !!!!

Have any of u heard of hi point weapons they are cheap, 8-O very cheap.. if so how do they handle?

 

[bigtaco]

i don't own one but... i've thought about buying one just because.

to hold them is to define clunky. they feel awkward, cheap and plasticky. but the people who own them, much like the people who own kel-tecs absolutely love them, once they accept them for what they are.

the place where i buy guns sells them on a daily basis. hi-point offers a lifetime warrenty, no questions asked. send it in, get it fixed or replaced. tough to beat. you listening steyr?

shooters say they're "not that bad". i've yet to try one myself.

most people that knock them haven't owned or fired them. i'd say they're worth checking out.

i bought a kel-tec sub2000 on the cheap as a cheapy alternative to a 9mm AR. i've spent less on this thing than most people spend on scopes and absolutely love it. people say the same about the hi-point carbines. no reason to believe the pistols have problems, when they do... they're fixed.

 

[Guest]

Hi-Point "Choppers" seem to be the top of the food chain in the "Saturday Night Special" category.

I know a guy who manages a local range and won't put H&K's in the rental case anymore because he's had too many break and they are a hassle to get fixed. We all know how poorly rentals are treated. He said the only things still in his case that have been there longer and w/ as few problems are the Glocks.

+1 on the clucky though

 

[Guest]

spilt off from original thread in M&S Series and placed here for congruity's sake.

 

[RangerM9]

working mans gun...

Hi-point bills themselves as the working mans gun. Cheap but effective and they have a no BS lifetime warranty. Clunky, yup1, kinda ugly...yup!....but for the money not bad. One of the handgun mags reviewed them last year, and it was a solidly positive review, said that the triggers were much better than you would expect on a gun of htis cost.

The Hi-point carbine in 9mm or .40 is also supposed to be a bit of a tack-driver, and runs really well, not flimsy, but not so sexy as a kel-tec (seen many post about kel-tec carbines being so cool looking, yet shoot for shit.

here is a good thread on them over on the Saiga Forum.... http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?showtopic=6423

I'm hoping to get one of the carbines myself sometime soon.....

 

[bigtaco]

my kel-tec in 9mm shoots the same bullet hole at 25 yards. i got it mainly to shoot action rifle matches where they won't let you shoot .223. i haven't tried it at fifty yet, but the word is that the sub par accuracy at long ranges is a 9mm problem. there's just not much taco sauce behind the bullet. reports are that 9mm won't even knock steel down at 75 yards, so with that little energy, it's not surprising that accuracy at longer distances is dismal.

i've heard that 10" groups at 100yards is pretty typical. but at 100 yards, give me a dpms ar-30.

i can tell you that the bore's inside diameter is much bigger than the steyr's. i have to double up patches when i clean it.

the biggest complaint i heard about kel-tec carbines was that the trigger blows. i don't know what is up with mine, but it feels like butter. smooth, crisp, clean.

the only thing keeping me from buying the hi point carbine is the unavailablility of 33 round mags. it's funny to put 100 rounds in three magazines: one in the gun and two in your mag pouch. imagine how guys with calicos feel!!

i shot my kel-tec at two matches last summer. holy crap, what a hoot. everyone has to try it once.

 

[RangerM9]

had a calico m-100 carbine about 15 years ago....thing jammed about every 3rd round....it was a hunk of crap....knowing what i do now, maybe i could have filed a few things and made it work better...but i was just a kid back then...