here comes Trusted Computing

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by MrApathy, Dec 5, 2006.

  1. MrApathy

    MrApathy Active Member

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    its the equivalent of having your phone bugged all the time
    so you dont engage in anything "security threatening"

    while researching what hardware to get for my HTPC
    I stumbled onto this

    http://www.nvidia.com//page/gpu_mobo_fe ... tml#quadro

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module


    the end of user privacy for corporate security and profit.

    was looking at nvidia based motherboard

    wouldnt be suprised if other motherboards and chipsets crop up soon with it.
     
  2. Shooter

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    Now that Apple is using Intel chips..........I'm a bit concerned of these revelations................
     

  3. MrApathy

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    cpu manufacture doesnt matter its industry wide
    AMD, Intel are onboard and have been for years so are a large list of other computer and software Manufactures,Distributors.

    expect to pay through the nose in the future for secure computing
    first method of payment will be your liberty and then your money.
     
  4. SELFDEFENSE

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    The songs I bought Napster are now triggering a request from my new Musicmatch software to send validation info to a remote site. Not happy.
     
  5. MrApathy

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  6. Shooter

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    Guess I'm sticking with my old IBM chip model.......... :?
     
  7. MrApathy

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    TPM is supposed to be put in cell phones too

    https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/about/

    you can probably keep the old chips all you want.
    it may come down to it in the future you may not be able
    to buy or sell without a tpm computer or cell phone on the net.

    heres a list of the companies involved.

    Current Members
    Page: 1

    Promoter
    AMD
    Hewlett-Packard
    IBM
    Infineon
    Intel Corporation
    Lenovo Holdings Limited
    Microsoft
    Sun Microsystems, Inc.
    Contributor
    3Com
    Agere Systems
    American Megatrends, Inc.
    ARM
    Atmel
    AuthenTec, Inc.
    AVAYA
    Broadcom Corporation
    Certicom Corp.
    Check Point Software , Inc.
    Citrix Systems, Inc
    Dartmouth College
    Decru
    Dell, Inc.
    Emulex Design and Manufacturing
    Endforce, Inc.
    Ericsson Mobile Platforms AB
    ETRI
    Extreme Networks
    F5 Networks
    France Telecom Group
    Freescale Semiconductor
    Fujitsu Limited
    Fujitsu Siemens Computers
    Gemalto
    General Dynamics C4 Systems
    Giesecke & Devrient
    Hitachi, Ltd.
    Industrial Technology Research Institute
    Infoblox
    InfoExpress, Inc.
    InterDigital Communications
    iPass
    ITE Tech Inc.
    Juniper Networks, Inc.
    Lancope, Inc.
    Lexar Media, Inc.
    Lexmark International
    Lockheed Martin
    LSI Logic
    Lucent
    M-Systems Flash Disk Pioneers
    Marvell Semiconductor, Inc.
    Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. Ltd
    Maxtor Corporation
    Mirage Networks
    Motorola Inc.
    NEC
    Neoscale Systems
    Nokia
    Nortel Networks
    NTRU Cryptosystems, Inc.
    NVIDIA
    NXP Semiconductors
    Phoenix
    Pointsec Mobile Technologies
    Quantum Corporation
    Renesas Technology Corp.
    Ricoh Company LTD
    RSA Security, Inc.
    SanDisk Corporation
    SCM Microsystems, Inc.
    Seagate Technology
    SECUDE IT Security GmbH
    Siemens AG
    SignaCert, Inc.
    Sinosun Technology Co., Ltd.
    SMSC
    Sony Corporation
    StepNexus, Inc
    StillSecure
    STMicroelectronics
    Symantec
    Symbian Ltd
    Toshiba Corporation
    Trend Micro
    TriCipher, Inc.
    Unisys
    UPEK, Inc.
    Utimaco Safeware AG
    VeriSign, Inc.
    Vernier Networks
    VMware, Inc.
    Vodafone Group Services LTD
    Wave Systems
    Western Digital
    Winbond Electronics Corporation
    Adopter
    Advanced Network Technology Laboratories
    Aircuve
    Apani Networks
    ATI Technologies Inc.
    Bioscrypt Inc.
    BlueRidge Networks
    BlueRISC, Inc.
    Bluesocket Inc
    Bradford Networks
    ConSentry Networks
    CPR Tools, Inc.
    Dai Nippon Printing Co., Ltd.
    DPHI, Inc.
    Feature Integration Technology, Inc.
    Fiberlink Communications
    ForeScout Technologies
    Fortinet Inc.
    GuardianEdge
    ICT Economic Impact, Ltd.
    Infosec Corporation
    Innerwall, Inc.
    Insight International Corp
    Insyde Software Corp.
    Integrated Technology Express Inc.
    Kaspersky Lab
    Konica Minolta
    LANDesk Software
    Lockdown Networks
    Meganet Corporation
    Meru Networks
    O2 Micro
    OPSWAT Inc.
    Oxford Semiconductor
    PatchLink Corporation
    Q1 Labs
    Ruijie Networks Ltd
    SafeBoot
    Safend LTD.
    Secure Elements
    Senforce Technologies, Inc
    SII Network Systems Inc.
    Silicon Integrated Systems Corp.
    Silicon Storage Technology, Inc.
    Sirrix AG Security Technologies
    Softex, Inc.
    Soliton Systems K.K.
    Symwave
    Telemidic Co. Ltd.
    Trapeze Networks, Inc.
    Trust Digital
    Trusted Network Technologies
    Universal Data Protection Corporation
    Valicore Technologies, Inc.
    ViaSat, Inc.
    Websense, Inc.

    I wondered why they wanted it in cell phones.
    cell phones are vulnerable too but looking even more.
    the companies want to implement rfid readers into phones as well.
    rfid was vulnerable to hacked phones. no more.
    companies want rfid everywhere so they can track your interest and sell you it when you run out.

    TPM chips cannot be torn out they made sure of that. feel free to download the pdf files from the https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org website
     
  8. Shooter

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    I think George Orwell just called me.......... :lol:
     
  9. smores

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    That's basically every IT/telecom company out there....

    What are you going to do? This stuff is most likely because of the "need" for surveillance from the Patriot Act :roll:
     
  10. FlaChef

    FlaChef Guest

    actually I'd be inclined to say it was more a matter of corporate control and marketing, they can already do the espionage bit too easily.

    George Orwell was scary, but ultimately optimistic. Think more cyberpunk / william gibson. "trusted computing" just sounds like a company he would put in a story 8-O
     
  11. WorldPax

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    Will this affect me? I just switched from Windows to Linux. I don't have ANYTHING Microsoft on my computer.
     
  12. MrApathy

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    Linux is in potential bind. just lookup microsoft and novell's deal.
    congrats on switching to linux though I know its not easy I made the move years ago. I still have a copy of windows on my pc but only use it for cad and cam. has been a long time since I booted to it to use it.

    IBM has software for linux to bring linux into TPM platform.

    potential can be very bad for freedom on the computer.
    the term personal computer could seriously be a thing of the pass.
    in name only with no substance. bit of doublethink allowed to think its your and your free but will have a chip on your pc keeping you honest.

    time will tell ultimately may not be long sometime in 2007 should get see the news emerge. keep an eye out on hacker news been couple stories already 1 on al qaeda wanting to attack banking systems was another anti hacker story forgot it. can just see some attack coming and oh hey what a coincidence we got this new pc of hardware in the computer and cell phones you just need this software while were at it we need this piece of legislation passed to enforce it.

    TCPA, TCG, TPM, DRM, Palladium and the G. Orwell's novel 1984

    http://www.againsttcpa.com/what-is-tcpa.html

    two bills were attempted but got no where
    CBDPTA (Consumer Broadband and Digital Television Promotion Act). First it was callen SSSCA (Security Systems Standards and Certification Act).

    wouldnt be suprised if new ones come and are successfull.
    alot of sites with information on this but they all seem old. suprised none of them kept current and up to date.