[sewerman]

just ran across this site.
i can't endorse but looks like site acts
as a broker for ffl dealers.
there's several steyr models offered for sale.

 

[Syntax360]

Several people from this site, myself included, purchased their M's through that site. I was quite pleased with the price and the transaction. Plus, they give you a lifetime warranty on your purchase - sure doesn't hurt. Highly recommend!

 

[madecov]

Syntax, I think you mean gallery of guns (Davidsons)

GunsAmerica is just an on line classifieds of individual sellers.

 

[Syntax360]

Quite right - woops. Should read that better. Gunsamerica is similiar to gunbroker, no? I've heard of a lot of scams off gunsamerica, but I'm sure gunbroker has its fair share as well.

 

[Guest]

Suggest Avoiding GunBroker

You certainly need to proceed with caution in any purchase, but from what i have read and seen GunBroker is the ABSOLUTE WORST of all the auction sites. Not only do all the auction sites have their share of scam artists, but the managers/administrators of GunBroker PROTECT them, they do not care if the sales are fraudulent as long as the seller pays GunBroker the fee, they will protect the scammers.

 

[FightDesigner]

...so what would you reccomend as the best site for looking for deals without getting ripped off?

Just curious.

 

[Guest]

Excellent question. Given that there are many very good people in the world and given the nature of some people to be not so good and given how these auction sites operate, I do not think that I nor ANYONE else for that matter can recommend one to use. I would just urge caution in dealing with any of them, if you feel it necessary to use one; have seen enough of GunBroker to recommend staying away from that one entirely. Whoever you do end up dealing with, ensure that you have some safeguards in place, and on that subject, just the presence of a 'feedback' system is in actuality NO PROTECTION to a buyer whatsoever. Some of these scam artists can bury negative feedback quickly with alleged 'positive' feedback. Suggest you not believe me, scrutinize some of these sellers yourself. Start with some that have negative feedback, then inspect very carefully who it appears the negative feedback is coming from versus who the 'positive' feedback is coming from. Contact some of the buyers that have had issues and see what they have to say. Then see if you can actually contact and talk to someone that administers the auction site, think you may find that very interesting, let me know what the auction site administrators have to say about sellers that have been amassing negative feedabck for YEARS and still allowed to use the site. I am sure that there are many many good people selling on the auction sites that treat people in an ethically and legally correct manner, all i am advising you of is that it is my opinion that this is not true of all sellers, believe there are some bad ones, so proceed cautiously and protect yourself through every step of the process.

 

[Auburn]

Maybe I have just been lucky, but I have purchased several guns from GunsAmerica, GunBroker, and AuctionArms. I have never had any kind of problem with any of the transactions.

Now, I will say that I would never fork over "big bucks" sight unseen for any purchase, so I have stayed away from buying really expensive stuff.

I have noticed that many sellers won't accept credit cards or PayPal beacuse of the fees....or if they do there is a % add-on to the buyer. Using either for an online transaction does at least afford the buyer some degree of protection.

 

[FightDesigner]

I suppose the rationale behind "An armed society is a polite society" breaks down in the venue of pseudo-anonymous online transactions... pity.

 

[Guest]

Your Right

FightDesigner,
I think you hit on an important underlying factor, most people do tend to be more polite and considerate of others when they know they are going to be face to face, or 'could' be face to face.