lucked out on another rifle for one of the grandsons this week. a model 187s savage/springfield. for $100. i heard this model is early 50's. good! i was hoping for something in the 60's or before. i'm very happy with the j.c. higgins model 30 made by hi-standard. this rifle IMO is a level higher in quality than the 187s and has proved to be a tack driver. one more to go and i'll have'em covered!