1. scottpoole

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    I can't find the tutorial that I used to reinforce my extractor spring or I'd post this there, but I used the method where you put a little spring from Brownell's inside the existing spring and put it all back together.

    Now that I'm done, I have about 2 feet of spring left over (the Brownell's part number listed in the tutorial was for a spring pack). Anyway, if anyone wants a piece of spring to do your pistol send me a self-addressed-stamped-envelope and I'll send you one.

    My address is: 134 Hawkins Farm Lane, Ball Ground, GA, 30107.
     

  2. Sound25

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    Thats great, thank you. Does it seem to help?
     
  3. scottpoole

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    Yes, it does work. The night I bought my pistol, I fired about 75 rounds through it with 2-3 FTE. Now that the extra spring is in there, I have had zero malfunctions of any kind in 200-300 additional rounds. I used it in an action pistol match on Sat. with flawless results.
     
  4. ThaiBoxer

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    I had my first failure ever with my M40 last weekend, about 1000 through it. The round of Federal 165 gr TFP failed to extract at all, and I had to push a rod down the muzzle to dislodge it. It then fired 3 clips without issue. I was VERY disturbed, it was a real tied-up gun and bought for self defense/carry.

    If you still have some spring left I'll send my SASE and thanks.

    Regards,

    Ben
     
  5. scottpoole

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    I've had 2 people pm me about springs, but I haven't recieved and SASE's. If you sent one, I didn't get it. PM me with your address and I'll just send you the springs, if you're still interested.

    However, I've unfortunately got to report that the fix may not be fool-proof. I shot an action pistol competition today and had one round where I had 4-5 FTE. 1st stage--35 rounds no problem. 3rd stage--40 rounds no problem. 2nd stage--4-5 FTE in about 35 rounds. Because the spent round failed to extract, a loaded round got jammed in on top of it. I had to drop the magazine, rack the slide several times, and then put in a new magazine. Not a good failure to have "on the clock."

    It's very frustating--especially since it happened on the middle stage. In between, all I did was take the slide off and manually pivot the extracter back and forth without removing it. I'm not sure if some dirt just gummed it up or what.

    I'll report back later as to what happens.
     
  6. FlaChef

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    was the pistol well lubed before the match, or was it last lubed last time you put it away?

    that's when I'll get acouple of FTE's in the middle of a match. But it goes about 80-100 rounds so it doesn't bother me to have to lube up before hand when I know I'll be shooting that much and the gun hasn't been touched in a couple of weeks.
     
  7. scottpoole

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    After the last match I shot in August I cleaned and lubed it and it's been under the bed since then. I did not re-lube it before shooting it the match. To be honest, though, I don't think I lubed the extracter at all last time. I know I didn't remove it and I don't remember dripping any oil in from the outside. I guess I should probably do that. I'd rather not have to remove the extractor every cleaning, though. What do you guys do?

    Also, I just checked out the cleaning tutorial above ans it says that the ejector should move with finger pressure. Mine does not. Anyone know if that is a problem?
     
  8. FlaChef

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    Oil doesn't stay in place after 3 months. Thin oil (like Remoil) will run out and others will thicken up into sludge, I actually have found a full synthetic motor oil to have about the best staying power in terms of sticking where you put it and not drying out (and it's dirt cheap per oz compared to gun oil).

    I remove and clean the extractor about every fifth to eighth cleaning (yeah, I know like clockwork). I also do not clean after every match or range trip, and my mags get about the same 1 in 5 to 1 in 8 treatment.
    But I do run a q-tip of 20w50 over the slide rails and locking block then rack it a few times and wipe dry either the night before or morning of range trip or match where I know I'll be shooting 100-300 rounds. If this seems like a lot of lube compared to a glock then you should see the ritualistic oil bathings of the Kimber crowd at an idpa match. Maybe a bore snake too if I'm feeling froggy.

    Only thing I do differently lube wise is a thin spray of Remoil over just about everything when I do clean.

    Newer gun, especially if in break-in will require a little more attention.

    I remember one bad match w/ multiple FTE's and when I got home I pulled the extractor and it was so caked up w/ carbon fouling it was ridiculous, but I had just cleaned and lubed it (for the first time) like two range trips ago. Live and learn about overlubing; oil in a tight area that has no place to drain will attract fouling. Spritz the claw when you have it out and wipe it dry.

    As I said, it only adds up at or near 100 rounds, so for EDC or HD I don't worry about it.


    YMMV, just my $.02
     
  9. scottpoole

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    Thanks, FlaChef. I think I'll copy your routine. I've always shot Glocks in the past. They run good with little or no lube (or cleaning, for that matter) and I guess I've just gotten lazy.

    The thing about it, though, is that I shoot the Steyr better than I shoot either of my glocks. I'll also admit that I get a certain satisfaction out of not shooting the same gun as everybody else.

    Anyway, thanks for the input. I've even got a quart of synthetic oil left over from my motorcycle days, so I'm set!
     
  10. ThaiBoxer

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    Hey Scott, I just checked this thread and saw that you did have spring left. I'll send an SASE and try this. I've had no problems since that one FTE, but do want to try this.

    Thanks,

    Ben Bock
     
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    tagging thread for later.
     
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    tagging thread for later.