[armored]

Not the guns fault! Operator error.
I have been looking forword to shooting my M9A1 at a IDPA match. That was the reason I bought it, for SSP or ESP. Over the last month or so I have been acumulating the pieces I needed to shoot a match, Extra Mags,Holster,Dbl mag carrier, 400 rounds downrange to break it in a bit. I made myself a front fiber Optic sight, and did the trigger work in the tuitorals to get it as good as I could.
Well, the first IDPA match was today, a classifier. I thought it would be nice to classify in SSP to go with my CDP classification. I waited for my name to be called. It was, I took my place at the firing line. I'm a S.O. so I know the countdown. Finnally the buzzer sounds, I draw, two to the body,one to the head. The S.O. tells the score keeper, 2.6 seconds. Sounds good to me for my first draw and fire with the Steyr ,I look forward to target two. Again the buzzer sounds,I grab for the pistol but also hook a corner of my front pants pocket,as I bring the gun up it twists and falls out of my hand. The S.O. yells STOP! He retreives my pistol and unloads it, hands it back to me and tells me I'm DQ'd.

Wait till next month!

 

[ZEEK]

Sorry to hear about that Armored. Did you figure out the "snag" problem?

And I have been geting geared up for 2 months now myself. Wow!

See drsmith58. at least you got to shoot them extra rounds in stage 8. :lol: I guess no matter how bad it seems, it can always be worse.

Better shooting next time.

Zeek

 

[bigtaco]

it stinks when things like that happen. at least there was no a.d.

i was with a l.e. friend who broke the 180 during a reload. dq. no fun.



the good news is you gave us a first hand drop test with witnesses!!

members: drop your pistol with confidence!!!

okay... please don't. you might hurt the ground!!!!

 

[armored]

it stinks when things like that happen. at least there was no a.d.

i was with a l.e. friend who broke the 180 during a reload. dq. no fun.



the good news is you gave us a first hand drop test with witnesses!!

members: drop your pistol with confidence!!!

okay... please don't. you might hurt the ground!!!!

2 shooters before me, a guy had a AD with his 1911. I felt bad for him untill I droped my gun and was sent packing( actually, I stayed till the end of the match and kept time and taped) 2 shooters after me a guy did a 180 and also got a DQ. It is rare to see a DQ in our club, let alone 3 on one 12 person squad and at the same match within such a close amount of time.
Thank God the gun didn't go off when it fell, It would not be the same humerious story it is now.
No matter how much or how long you shoot, you will ALLWAYS learn a new lesson.Hpoefully it will make you a better shooter and sportsman.

 

[MrApathy]

sorry to hear that. dont let it bother your confidence practice and jump right back in.

 

[Shooter]

it stinks when things like that happen. at least there was no a.d.

i was with a l.e. friend who broke the 180 during a reload. dq. no fun.


The 180....? that's a IDPA term...haven't done IDPA yet, is that a reload with pistol too high???

 

[revchuck]

The 180....? that's a IDPA term...haven't done IDPA yet, is that a reload with pistol too high???

Actually, it's a USPSA term, but that doesn't answer your question.

If you're facing downrange, "the 180" is a line that starts from your left and right sides and extends to the side berms; it also extends vertically. "Breaking the 180" is causing your muzzle to cross that line to the rear, or back uprange where everyone is standing. This merits a DQ due to safety considerations.

IDPA uses "muzzle safe points", which are points past which your muzzle is not supposed to pass. Very often it's the same as the 180. Also, many ranges use the 180 rule, so it supercedes the muzzle safe point rule for IDPA.

 

[Shooter]

Does the muzzle safe zone include, skywards, muzzle up reloading??...
which I believe is the "federal" leo standard for reloading and being able to 360 without pointing the muzzle at persons who may be in the area?? I ask because I was called on that from the sherrif's trainers this weekend..
and I forgot to ask them if they were teaching the LEO's muzzle down reloading ? ......not that the sherrif's are cutting edge.. :wink:

 

[armored]

The 180....? that's a IDPA term...haven't done IDPA yet, is that a reload with pistol too high???

Actually, it's a USPSA term, but that doesn't answer your question.

If you're facing downrange, "the 180" is a line that starts from your left and right sides and extends to the side berms; it also extends vertically. "Breaking the 180" is causing your muzzle to cross that line to the rear, or back uprange where everyone is standing. This merits a DQ due to safety considerations.

IDPA uses "muzzle safe points", which are points past which your muzzle is not supposed to pass. Very often it's the same as the 180. Also, many ranges use the 180 rule, so it supercedes the muzzle safe point rule for IDPA.

In this case the 180 DQ came from; (correct procedure,standing with your back toward the target, gun holstered, at the sound of the buzzer turn to target,draw,and engage) The shooter at the sound of the buzzer, DREW, THEN TURNED swipeing everyone there with the muzzel. The STOP command was then used!

This was an experianced shooter, but first time IDPA shooter. Its amazing how ANYBODY can screw up when the buzzer sounds.

 

[Shooter]

Wow.......that's a serious sweep !!!! 8-O I would say that should be a DQ :lol:

 

[revchuck]

Its amazing how ANYBODY can screw up when the buzzer sounds.

Hey - I represent that remark!

 

[Guest]

Wow... A true collection of horror stories to be sure. Allot of lucky people too. The worst at my club was a guy whose AR trigger job was a little too "good". He slapped a fresh 30 round mag in after his first one sprung on him. He was so pissed off and hit the thing so hard when he dropped his bolt that something snapped in his trigger group and he cooked off the whole mag full auto. He put about the last 10 rounds or so over the top of the berm. It was a scary bad thing. The whole match was stopped and all the LEO's at the club drove around for hours making sure no strays had found their mark. No collateral damage though and that was 4 months ago so once again...luck...

 

[SELFDEFENSE]

Bummer. But that is why you do IDPA or IPSC to get a more real world test of your equipment and methods.

 

[RiceCakes]

Wow... A true collection of horror stories to be sure. Allot of lucky people too. The worst at my club was a guy whose AR trigger job was a little too "good". He slapped a fresh 30 round mag in after his first one sprung on him. He was so pissed off and hit the thing so hard when he dropped his bolt that something snapped in his trigger group and he cooked off the whole mag full auto. He put about the last 10 rounds or so over the top of the berm. It was a scary bad thing. The whole match was stopped and all the LEO's at the club drove around for hours making sure no strays had found their mark. No collateral damage though and that was 4 months ago so once again...luck...

Lol. Sounds like someone did a homebrew trigger job and shaved off too much on the safety disconnector. I did my own TJ, but a safe check is always in order. Mine stayed at about 5lbs though. Funny and scary story!

 

[IDPASteyr]

Q!

It just goes to show that there are two kinds of shooters in IDPA. Those that have been DQ'd and those that have not been DQ'd....YET!!!

 

[bigtaco]

funny you mention that idpasteyr, because that's exacty how i feel.

i just haven't been dq'd YET. but when it happens, i'll feel no shame or remorse. unless someone gets hurt!!!! but barring that, everyone will goof.

it really is a big sky. luckily no bullets hit anything vital.

but i grew up in carolina during the famous-to-me atleast carowinds shooting. some guys were shooting big caliber rifles and a stray traveled close to a mile and hit a girl at an amusement park. the odds? astronomical.

 

[armored]

Re: Q!

It just goes to show that there are two kinds of shooters in IDPA. Those that have been DQ'd and those that have not been DQ'd....YET!!!

What really hurts is that I'm a S.O.
I just added a Hogue wrap around rubber grip. Helps ALOT! I get a real good grip on the pistol now, and the gun does not rotate in my hand when I fire it.

Shot it last week at a IDPA match and all was fine. I'll put it thru its paces this Sat. again.

 

[Shooter]

I just got three universal Hogue grips for all my Steyrs and it has made a big difference in accuracy and secure gripping.........

 

[armored]

I just got three universal Hogue grips for all my Steyrs and it has made a big difference in accuracy and secure gripping.........

SHOOTER, I have you to thank for turning me on to the Hogue grips, THANKS!

Also THANKS for the instalation tip. I worked great and surely saved me from destroying the grips.

 

[Shooter]

I just got three universal Hogue grips for all my Steyrs and it has made a big difference in accuracy and secure gripping.........

SHOOTER, I have you to thank for turning me on to the Hogue grips, THANKS!

Also THANKS for the instalation tip. I worked great and surely saved me from destroying the grips.

Glad to lend a hand......................taking the new griped 9 out today to check it out........... :lol: