I am looking for cheap "clean ammo" or the no lead in primer ammo. The only place for me to shoot most of the time is an indoor range here in California and you can't shoot the "EVIL" stuff. The range sell's their relaod junk ammo in .40 s&w for $12.50 a box of 50. out of 150 rounds I had 3 FTB, I think due to the case of the ammo it look out of shape. Our wally world here is alway out of "clean" and the range won't let you shoot your own reloads so that is out :x Next Ca. will out law all lead primer ammo, just in case you do have to shoot at a BG he won't get sick from the lead :?