Civilian Aug in the USA?

Discussion in 'AUG, MSAR' started by Guest, May 8, 2005.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hi all,
    I'm sure we have all the seen the catalog page that which from all accounts is a genuine Steyr publishing showing a listing for the S-A1. While I would be first to line up and buy a S40-A1, I think this page shows far more than that. From looking at this page, and doing a little research, I think that the AUG shown on this page will be a new semi-auto version of the A3 for the civilian market!

    Steyr already markets the AUG "Z" (only in austria) which is a semi-auto civilian version, so they already have the semi-auto only trigger pack developed. Secondly, I believe (though haven't found a reliable source to say so...) that the AUG A3, which appears to be shown in this picture, is already available to the military / police market, yet the catalog page lists the model as the "AUG SA" (Semi Auto?), available spring '06. Combined with the other rumors floating around of Steyr beginning a new marketing push beginning of '06, I believe that the AUG Semi Auto will be the flagship product with which they launch thier renewed marketing effort. Lets hope I'm right, and everyone post how much they want one so Steyr execs who may come thorugh here see our support.

    I would line up around the block for a S40-A1, a civilian AUG A3, and a "L" 45... Thats about $3000 dollars of my money waiting for you to come take it Steyr...

    Edited to Add:
    Whoops, I guess I posted this in the wrong forum...My bad..

    James
     
  2. Generand

    Generand New Member

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    Don't hold your breath for the AUG A3 here in the US, unless they plan to open a factory here and build them. We'd still need to remove the '89 executive order that restricts the importation of the "banned" rifles. Remember, the '94 ban had nothing to do with allowing the importation of these rifles. So any imported rifles that are here (German, Chinese, Austrian, Hungarian, Russian, etc) have been here since 1989 and there will be no more unless another executive order counteracts the old ban. That's why the "pre-bans" still hold the value that they do and the US clones will probably depreciate like a new car that is driven off the parking lot...not worth the penny that you paid for it. So, remember, if you really want a REAL "pre-ban" rifle, get it if you can afford it, because they will only go up in price. So as many of us in the forum can voice our opinions and wishes abou the AUG A3 to Steyr as much as we want, but unless you're an SOT or Class III FFL, you are SOL!
     

  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Well, I am not really familiar with how the importation laws work on the AUG, as it is named in that ban. However, could they manufacture the reciever only here in the US, then build the rifles with imported parts? I know such things are done with HK91, FAL, AK and the like. I don't know what the receiver component of the AUG is like (I've never had one :( ), but I imagine that the manufacturing facilities needed to make just it are much less than to make the entire rifle. I don't think that manufacturing the receivers in the volume they would hope to sell would take a huge plant. That would be totally awesome though. I bet it would give the new FN line a run for it's money.

    James
     
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Part kits are only for replacement purposes. An assemble rifle need to have 10 counts of parts made in the U.S for legitimacy.
     
  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    The only new Military type rifle you can get is a AR type of rifle b/c mainly it circumvent the Importation ban. Now, a good complete factory built is not cheap either, Colt LE6920 is going about $1,300 to us civilian.

    I drool over other rifle in the past but I ended up building two AR's.
     
  6. ministerofdeath

    ministerofdeath New Member

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    I believe the AUG was banned from importation by 18 USC 925(d)(3), which was enacted and signed in 1989. The importation of parts for assembly was later restricted by amendement in 1990 (see 18 USC 922(r)). The parts importation restriction basically prohibits using more than 10 "importated parts" from a list of 20 parts, such as hammer, trigger, etc.

    I think it is 100% unconstitutional and one of many black eyes that the Clinton/Janet Renos type Democrats that had a significant majority in both the house and senate gave our country in those dark days when terrorist ran free and Americans with firearms were treated like the 3rd Reich.
     
  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    +1000000000 on that thought...
     
  8. BurningDog

    BurningDog New Member

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  9. Guest

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    Actually, if the ban was passed in 1989, that would be the end of the Reagan administration. Clinton wouldn't be president for another 4 years... and George H. W. Bush (Republican of course) served from 1989-1993, which would make him the one restricting parts for assembly. Reagan was also responsible for closing down the list of registered Class III weaponry, which occurred in 1989.

    Damn... liberals?

    Although you're right: terrorists were certainly running free during the Reagan/Bush Sr. administration. They even got shiny new weapons to run around with! The same ones that have been killing our soldiers in Afghanistan.

    Anyway, I don't mean to derail this thread, but I just found the poster's memory issues disheartening.
     
  10. blueiron

    blueiron New Member

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    You can hope for a new AUG A3, which will never arrive, or you can buy an existing AUG or USR. Heck, I might even sell mine.... I need a new motorcycle.
     
  11. sauerquint

    sauerquint New Member

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    Clinton didn't become president until 1/20/1993. Bush did this to us, don't ever forget it. You can't blame dems in congress either, it was an executive order. The new barrel ban is Bush ban too. Don't ever forget that either.
     
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I was going to make that same comment and glad someone else had. Bush sr. was not a friend to military firearm enthusiaststs. I figure just cough up $2.5k and get an USR or AUG A1.
     
  13. Generand

    Generand New Member

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    From the website:

    "MIAMI BEACH: STEYR ARMS, INC. introduces its new 5.56 mm AUG A3 modular weapon system at the 2005 IACP convention to the US and international law enforcement community. According to Karl Walter, CEO of STEYR ARMS, INC., "The AUG A3 is the result of Steyr's continuous development of the AUG A1 and A2, which have been in use with numerous US and international security forces since 1977."



    As it says,"to the international law enforcement community." I'd plop down $3200 for two of them if it was available for me, but alas it is still just a dream :( . It has and will always be available to LE and Military, but we civies have to choose from what is left behind (A1s, A2s, USRs).
     
  14. ministerofdeath

    ministerofdeath New Member

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    Ok,

    You got me and nice that you took things personal. Of course, I shouldn't expect less from a liberal than personal attacks. For your information the Import Ban was authored by Democrats and passed because at that time they were the majority power in the Congress. (See 1968 Gun Control Act non-sporting clause). Clinton and Janet Reno enforced the ban with more convictions for weapons offenses than any other point in our history.

    Of course, if you have a personal problem with me maybe we can meet and take care of it.

    P.S. We were fighting the communists and had to support those against them even though you may have been a big supporter at the time pal.
     
  15. FlaChef

    FlaChef Guest

    OK ENOUGH!

    everyone play nice!
    This is not a polotics board.

    Gun laws are pertinent as are when they took affect relating to parts and importing.

    Name calling (including political tags) is NOT :!: