Can anyone help me ID this SSG 69? I think it differs from what I was told

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Roadsweeper

Discussion Starter · 12 mo ago

Ok, so short story, bought an SSG 69 off a guy I shoot with. He swore it was an SSG 69 P1 chambered in 7.62x51 NATO.

Upon trawling through the various posts on this forum, I'm actually now believing its actually a P2 chambered in .308 Win.

I cant find any solid information on what the various barrel types look like. This rifle has a black synthetic stock with a sling attachment point in the stock, the heavy bolt, but a tapered barrel, not a straight one, tapering from 24.2mm at the receiver to 21.2mm at the muzzle. So I believe a heavy barrel? Even though its not straight? It doesnt have any form of iron sights and just the built in rail.

As per the pictures, despite the receiver being only marked "P", I actually believe this is a PII in 308 win not a PI in 7.62x51 (Am assuming thats what the "2" on the bottom of the barrel and receiver is?). I have been unable to verify how the 7.62x51 rifles are actually marked to confirm if they are actually marked on the barrel as 7.62x51...

Can anyone either confirm or disprove my theory please?

P.S. as far as I can tell, the AKAH is a german dealer mark., Oh and the 5 shot rotary magazine clearly has 308 Win stamped on it.

Thanks in advance.

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silentheart

· #2 · 12 mo ago

Please see the link below for the difference.

Steyr SSG69 P1 and SSG 69 PII

What are the differences ( for collectors and shooters) between 1980's import Steyr SSG69 P1 and later SSG 69 PII?

www.sniperforums.com

Action is the same. 308 win has higher chanber pressure. So, just go out and enjoy your new rifle. All steyr ssg rifles are very accurate. My ssg08 marked for 308 win does under 1 moa any day w good ammo.

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Roadsweeper

Discussion Starter · #3 · 12 mo ago

Cool, thanks for the confirmation. Yeah I had already found out the 308 has a fractionally thinner case and higher chamber pressures, and you can use a NATO round in a 308, but not the other way round.

I've already bought some thicker walled NATO cases, but nice to know I can use the cheaper 308 cases next time round... and agree, she shoots beautifully. I had some milsurp ammo to test it with and was practically putting them through the same hole at 100m. 😀

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shedtinkerer

· #4 · 11 mo ago

Roadsweeper said:
Cool, thanks for the confirmation. Yeah I had already found out the 308 has a fractionally thinner case and higher chamber pressures, and you can use a NATO round in a 308, but not the other way round.

I've already bought some thicker walled NATO cases, but nice to know I can use the cheaper 308 cases next time round... and agree, she shoots beautifully. I had some milsurp ammo to test it with and was practically putting them through the same hole at 100m. 😀

I have a P1 that I bought many years ago, it has a tapered barrel and iron sights. It is factory marked for both .308 and 7.62 I have used both types of ammunition and have had no problems at all. It is a tremendously strong action so I wouldn't owrryabout using NATO ball if I was you, though you do appear to have a P2

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Roadsweeper

Discussion Starter · #5 · 11 mo ago

shedtinkerer said:
I have a P1 that I bought many years ago, it has a tapered barrel and iron sights. It is factory marked for both .308 and 7.62 I have used both types of ammunition and have had no problems at all. It is a tremendously strong action so I wouldn't owrryabout using NATO ball if I was you, though you do appear to have a P2

Thanks for the info, although from what I've gathered, Its the other way around you need to be careful of. You apparently can use NATO rounds in a 308, but its not advisable to use 308 rounds in a NATO chambered rifle, NATO rounds being designed for a 50K pressure max, and 308 rounds being designed for a 62k pressure max. Having originally thought the rifle was NATO chambered, Ive been avoiding 308 winchester, and sourcing 7.62x51 cases, which are harder to get a hold of. They are very slightly different to 308win cases, having a thicker sidewall, and supposedly, a very slightly different neck design (and are about 30 grains heavier than a 308win).

If I'm correct, and this is actually a P2 in 308win, rather than the P1 in 7.62x51 NATO as I was originally told, makes life a ton easier for me. Means I can start reloading using 308win cases, which are more readily available here in the UK

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