While we're at it... how about a .22 conversion kit so I don't go broke shooting my M40 at the range?
.45 caliber Steyr?
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Since we know the good people at Steyr are reading this forum, I'd like to make a suggestion that I hinted at on another thread.
How about making the M in .45 GAP? Either that, or introduce the rumored L model in .45 ACP.
Anybody besides me want one?
Cheers,
DR
How about making the M in .45 GAP? Either that, or introduce the rumored L model in .45 ACP.
Anybody besides me want one?
Cheers,
DR
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.357 Sig is quite common and competitively priced in my part of the world.CGuns said:.45GAP is going to end up exactly like 10mm and .357Sig
Rare and Expensive to shoot. Albeit a decent caliber, with advantages, just like the above mentioned rounds.
CGuns
ranburr
I'm with ranburr and zundfolge.
If the ACP necessitates a grip with as much girth as a Glock 20 or 21 I'll not be buying one. I would also be worried about increasing the trigger reach. It may be possible to eliminate some of the bulk from the rear of the Steyr grip to get around these two issues. If this were to be true I'd greenlight either a .45 ACP or a 10mm.
The much simpler solution would be the .45 GAP. I don't have a 12 rd M40 mag to try it in, but I would think that 10 GAP's ought to fit in one. A 10 rd M45GAP-A1 or possibly a 12 rd L45GAP-A1 would hold quite a bit of appeal for me.
If the ACP necessitates a grip with as much girth as a Glock 20 or 21 I'll not be buying one. I would also be worried about increasing the trigger reach. It may be possible to eliminate some of the bulk from the rear of the Steyr grip to get around these two issues. If this were to be true I'd greenlight either a .45 ACP or a 10mm.
The much simpler solution would be the .45 GAP. I don't have a 12 rd M40 mag to try it in, but I would think that 10 GAP's ought to fit in one. A 10 rd M45GAP-A1 or possibly a 12 rd L45GAP-A1 would hold quite a bit of appeal for me.
While you are waiting for Steyr take a look at the Taurus 24/7 45 acp same basic design as M series. Stricker fired full double action rather than partial cocked stricker so it has a longer triger pull. Millenam Pro PT 145 is smaller than the S series and holds 10+1 45 acp. Don't forget that with a recoil spring change you can shoot 45 Super in a 45 acp and it meets or beats the power of a 10mm.
no doubt...ranburr said:Those Taurus have some of the worst trigger pulls out there.
ranburr
If you have not tried the two models I mentioned which have been released in the last 2 yrs then I don't know that your statements are justified. I have owned and shot most handguns that have been on the market in the last 20 yrs. The trigger is much smoother and lighter than my Colt Python which is rated as the smoothest double action revolver built. The trigger pull is longer but lighter than my M40/357.
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Yes, I have shot them and I stand by my statement. They are no where near the level of a 1911, a Steyr, Springfield XD, CZ-75, or even a Glock. I do think that Taurus makes reliable guns, I do not think that Taurus puts good triggers on their guns. Maybe that will change when their new 1911 comes out.ShelbyV8 said:If you have not tried the two models I mentioned which have been released in the last 2 yrs then I don't know that your statements are justified. I have owned and shot most handguns that have been on the market in the last 20 yrs. The trigger is much smoother and lighter than my Colt Python which is rated as the smoothest double action revolver built. The trigger pull is longer but lighter than my M40/357.
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Taurus Triggers
In all fairness, the Taurus 24/7 and Millenium (Pro) series are primarily intended for duty/defensive purposes with their true DAO trigger that both cocks the striker and releases it in the same stroke. The ONLY reason for this type of trigger is to prevent ADs and be sure that when the gun fires it was intentional (helpful from a liability standpoint for both the shooter and company).
In this light, comparing them to non-DAO triggers in ANY gun is not apple-to-apples. I think for the money they provide tremendous value and I have been considering a Millenium Pro .45 for a carry gun.
Jeff
In all fairness, the Taurus 24/7 and Millenium (Pro) series are primarily intended for duty/defensive purposes with their true DAO trigger that both cocks the striker and releases it in the same stroke. The ONLY reason for this type of trigger is to prevent ADs and be sure that when the gun fires it was intentional (helpful from a liability standpoint for both the shooter and company).
In this light, comparing them to non-DAO triggers in ANY gun is not apple-to-apples. I think for the money they provide tremendous value and I have been considering a Millenium Pro .45 for a carry gun.
Jeff
The cracked frames were with the Millennium not the Millennium Pro, the problem was cured about 3 years ago.
Thats weird , here in WA state I can get 357Sig ammo for about what I pay for 45ACP , but to the main point I would like to see all the models in a L configuration and a 45ACP model that takes 1911 mags would be GREAT!! (Oh and pleeeaassee keep the low bore axis )CGuns said:.45GAP is going to end up exactly like 10mm and .357Sig
Rare and Expensive to shoot. Albeit a decent caliber, with advantages, just like the above mentioned rounds.
Someone spent the time to re-engineer a cartridge that has lasted the U.S. well over a century. Why? It is attempting to address an issue that was never there.
9mm or .45acp for me only! Pretty common and doesn't cost $$$$ to shoot. Find it in most spots across the world, with .45acp being a little bit less common, but still available.
CGuns
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