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Steyr Club - AUG http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/ Discusion about AUG rifles. en Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:24:51 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/images/brave/misc/rss.png Steyr Club - AUG http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/ Shot My New MSAR on Saturday! http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7992-Shot-My-New-MSAR-on-Saturday!?goto=newpost Mon, 09 Aug 2010 15:09:23 GMT Got to the range (indoor) on Saturday and fired my new MSAR Stg556. LOVE IT! :rofl: Never missed a beat AND fed both factory and my reloads... Got to the range (indoor) on Saturday and fired my new MSAR Stg556. LOVE IT! :rofl: Never missed a beat AND fed both factory and my reloads perfect. The EOTech was the only sight I put on as I wanted to make this a 0-100 yard gun. Now I am going to put in a Neu-Trigger and see what it will do at 100 yards. ]]> AUG Cozahome http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7992-Shot-My-New-MSAR-on-Saturday! STG556 Mag Well Mod http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7984-STG556-Mag-Well-Mod?goto=newpost Thu, 05 Aug 2010 16:31:30 GMT I understand that some MSAR owners have had to modify the STG556 mag well to accept Steyr or aftermarket mags to fit. What is the procedure? ... I understand that some MSAR owners have had to modify the STG556 mag well to accept Steyr or aftermarket mags to fit. What is the procedure?

Thanks
Terry ]]> AUG Cozahome http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7984-STG556-Mag-Well-Mod Msar stg-556 http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7981-Msar-stg-556?goto=newpost Tue, 03 Aug 2010 16:05:15 GMT This is my first post and please forgive me if this question has been asked before...What is the opinion of the MSAR STG-556 as far as quality? I... This is my first post and please forgive me if this question has been asked before...What is the opinion of the MSAR STG-556 as far as quality? I have been looking at several posts and it appears to be well thought of but I could use a little direction.

Terry ]]> AUG Cozahome http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7981-Msar-stg-556 CT legal AUG http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7976-CT-legal-AUG?goto=newpost Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:03:39 GMT Hi folks, Very New to AUG I am thinking about a AUG or Msar that would not have a flash hider. Maybe a none removable muzzle brake. Question:... Hi folks,

Very New to AUG

I am thinking about a AUG or Msar that would not have a flash hider. Maybe a none removable muzzle brake.
Question: Has this been made before or can it be ordered from Msar? I think this is the only outstanding "evil"
part on the rifle. I also have a feeling it would have to be the STG556 sporting rifle as the AUG is mentioned on the banned "Assault rifle" list here in the "Nutmeg state"...

I saw that MSAR was making a version in 6.8. Does anyone have any experience with this cal. in a AUG style rifle.

Thanks for your input

Jamsy ]]> AUG Jamsy http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7976-CT-legal-AUG My Steyr A3 impressions... http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7975-My-Steyr-A3-impressions...?goto=newpost Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:23:11 GMT I have a few years of experience with the original Steyr made AUG A1....smooth, accurate, durable, reliable. I used and abused it and refinished it... I have a few years of experience with the original Steyr made AUG A1....smooth, accurate, durable, reliable. I used and abused it and refinished it when it got ugly. Every AUG/USR I've handled seemed just as good as mine. That being said, I went to a gun shop and looked at a 300s serial numbered Sabre made A3........

My impressions: Plastic stock was much cruder, especially around the magwell. The receiver has the carrying handle chopped off with a long rail bolted(?) on the top. Pulling the bolt back was rough and sometimes wouldn't go into battery. While fighting the bolt, the cheese grater/picatinny rail, scrapes my fingers. The comp/flash hider looked like something you would find on a com-bloc AK. The last round bolt hold open looked uncomfortable and unneeded on an otherwise smooth surface. I was about ready to buy one of these sight unseen, glad I checked one out first.

Are ALL the new Steyrs of this quality or was I looking at a low serial number lemon? ]]> AUG Dehammer http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7975-My-Steyr-A3-impressions... My MSAR, Neu-Trigger, and an Overdue Review http://www.steyrclub.com/vb/showthread.php/7962-My-MSAR-Neu-Trigger-and-an-Overdue-Review?goto=newpost Tue, 20 Jul 2010 21:33:36 GMT I've been putting this off for a long, long while - mostly because I didn't have a lot to say about the MSAR STG556 that couldn't be found anywhere else on the internet. It seems like I have a thousands ideas about what I want to do when I pick up a new firearm, but as time progresses and trigger-time builds, that vision begins to focus much more clearly. It is only through a trial and error process of running different gear that you discover the right synergy of accessories and gun - going overboard leads to a heavy, usually fragile rig that never seems quite right. Less is more in many instances, and I think the AUG/STG/TPD/insert-acronym-here is a pretty good example of this.

To begin, this gun is not an AR-15. Like it or not, the AR-15 pretty well sets the bar of what we expect from a modern fighting carbine. As such, most of what I'm going to discuss is colored through the lens of an AR-centric perspective. That said, there are a couple of things the STG does worse than the AR, and some things it excels at.

I picked this gun up from CDNN after the Presidential election in December of 2008 - it was my "oh shit, there go our gun rights" gun. At the time, prices were down from roughly $2,000 to $1,500 or so, and I assumed gun-grabber hype was going to prevent the prices from ever becoming lower - I was quite wrong. These guns can be procured for just under $1,000 today, and the new MSAR E4 versions that accept AR-15 magazines can be had for only slightly more.

The firearm does not come with any sort of optics or iron sights, so I'm going to start by addressing accessories and move on to characteristics of the overall weapon system.

I thought the factory AUG-ish optics were really cool, but it seemed pretty limiting. A guy that goes by the name Tomac over at ArfCom and The Firing Line slapped a Trijicon RX-30 on his gun, and I knew I had to try it. Let's talk about this optic a bit...

The exact model I went with was the RX30-23, which comes with an ARMS #15 throw-lever flat-top mount. This mount is hardly ideal - location of the throw levers is such that many users report hitting their knuckles when they rip the MSAR charging handle all the way to the rear. This can be remedied by using a different (Trijicon?) mount, which has knobs on the other side of the optic. I do not grab the charging handle, but rather pull backwards using the palm of my hand, so this has never been a problem for me.

The RX30 uses tritium and fiber optic to project an "always on" 6.5MOA amber dot onto a 42mm plane - in the daylight, it's scorchingly bright. I was concerned that large dot size would be a problem at range, but I rolled the dice anyway. First off, the glass does give everything a blue hue, but it definitely isn't so distracting as to be any sort of hindrance to use. The field-of-view on this thing is nuts - it's giant, and I dig that. The large-ish 6.5MOA dot rocks indoors and inside 50 yards, but I could see it being a very real problem at range - I wouldn't want to make a lot of 200+ yard shots using this setup. Most of my shooting has been at 50 yards at a standard paper bullseye target, and at that range, the dot usually just covers the first few rings of the bullseye. This could be a problem, but honestly, just seeing that 1" dot at 50 yards is challenge enough - I've never felt like the optic is seriously limiting. If I were shooting silhouettes or zombies, I am confident that dot size at ranges intended for use would be a non-issue.

Cheek weld is not ideal with the traditional STG556 rail, but I like it. Other users report the new E4 "AUG A3" style rail provides a more solid lock-up, but I'm not doing precision shooting at range with this rig. Offhand and on the move, optic and rail height make for very fast/natural dot and target acquisition.

Nighttime is different. This optic has been great during camping trips and such, but in an urban/indoor environment things get tricky. A major complaint with this optic is dot washout, a problem which is especially compounded when used with a weaponlight. Aiming from a dark room to an illuminated target can cause total dot washout, or lighting up a bright target (e.g. white walls) with a weapon light usually causes the dot to disappear. You will never catch me claiming to be any good with a camera in low light, so my apologies for the following pictures - I hope you will get the idea:

Total dot washout (the dot was in focus, I promise). Tomac reported this to be the Achilles' heal of this optic as well. I think I found a workable solution - I fitted my weaponlight with a red filter, which not only allows me to still track my amber dot, but also preserves some sentiment of dark-adaptation for the user. Same focus, same wall:

Hardly as bright as an EOTech or Aimpoint, but I think it will do the job.

That aside, this optic is bombproof. No batteries or buttons to mess with, robust design, and it looks/feels absolutely unbreakable. Adjustment clicks for windage and elevation are positive and stay locked in place. Adjustment may be made with an allen key or flat head screwdriver/coin.

The washout issue was disheartening, but now that I have fitted the gun with a red filter, I'm quite satisfied with this optic.

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