Sig P220 Compact SAO .45 ACP followed me home: Can I keep it?

Discussion in 'Other Handguns' started by Netfotoj, Apr 29, 2010.

  1. Netfotoj

    Netfotoj Premium Member

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    I'm a sucker for a good deal and I just got one. CDNN had been sending me emails for about a month offering a Sig Sauer P220 Compact Tactical Elite Single-Action-Only .45 ACP, so I took the credit card plunge even though I hate to do that. Good deals wait for no man.

    I finally got my hands on it and brought it home Tuesday. CDNN calls it a "Tactical Elite" model that's a limited edition with the Elite-style beavertail frame and aluminum grips. I'd trade both the Elite beavertail and the aluminum grips for Sig's SRT short-reset trigger like my P229 SAS, but that's not part of the package. It is a Sig P220 Compact SAO with SigLite Night Sights, so that's more than good enough for me.

    I'm a lefty so the P220 SAO models with ambi safeties work well for me, not to mention carrying the P220 like you're supposed to carry a .45, cocked and locked. If the single-action trigger on this compact is a good as my full-size P220 SAO, I'm in deep clover. I can shoot that big P220 better than any of the three 1911 .45s I own so I'm hopeful this compact will be somewhere close to as good.

    You can't expect a compact pistol to shoot as well as a full-size one, but if it's anywhere close, I'll be a very happy camper. Now if I can just hold my breath until Saturday when I can take her to the range and see how she runs.

    I never have liked that gunwriter's worn-out phrase, "put it through its paces." It ain't a horse, it's a pistol and I don't expect it to pace, but I do expect it to run. Very well as a matter of fact.

    Anything less than very well would be a big surprise as I've never shot a Sig yet that didn't.

    Chapter Two:
    Over at the Sigforum there's a couple of threads going on the CDNN "Tactical Elite" P220 Compact sale under way and one guy who just got one says the list of features includes:
    - Sig P220 Compact "Elite" as they call it
    - Beavertail frame
    - SRT trigger
    - SAO kit
    - Ambidextrous thumb safety
    - Sig aluminum grips
    - Sig night sights
    - Metal guide rod​
    I can say "Amen!" to all of the above, including the steel guide rod that I didn't discover until this morning when I took a magnet to it, but for the life of me I can't be sure about the SRT until I actually shoot it.

    I tried cycling the slide by hand while "riding the trigger" to check the reset. It seems to be the same short reset as the SRT on my P229 SAS Gen2, but I won't know for sure 'til I shoot it.

    This deal just keeps getting better all the time. I also read on the Sigforum that Sig assembled this batch of a couple hundred or so P220 compacts on the last of the P245 frames, so it's sort of a catchall of their top features loaded onto some older frames. The Sigforum guys seem to think this is a great idea as they appear to like the P245s better than the P220s.

    I'm still a newby about Sigs, but if that's what the "experts" say it's fine with me. I really can't wait to shoot it now. And God help me the wife has already made plans for yard work Saturday.

    I shall have to call on the Good Lord to deliver me from the yard work and part the Red Sea so I can cross over to DeWitt's Range on Saturday. Or failing that, I'll just have to work like hell Saturday morning so I can go shooting Saturday afternoon. Better the former than the latter, but either way if the Good Lord's willing and the creek don't rise, I'll be shooting Saturday.

    And if you're a Sig nut, or wanta be one, CDNN is still selling them for $650. That's a great deal!
     
  2. Syntax360

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    Sounds like you found a good one, Net. :thumbsup: I know I don't even have to say it, but be sure to post back and let us know how she shoots!
     

  3. majette

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    i had a 'puppy dog close' moment a few days ago when the clerk put it in my hand and said, look, its meant for you:

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  4. Buzz

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    That SIG looks sweet. As it's a 220 it's going to be inherently accurate enough that the smaller barrel may not be all that big of an issue. I'm not a fan of a beavertail (I see it as serving no purpose with SIG's design and especially with a compact) but I could live with it. The gun also hasn't suffered the indignity of a rail, which for me on most SIGs is a deal-breaker unless the gun only comes that way. Some time back I acquired a new SIG 220 with a rail and it didn't survive in my stable for long. I relaced it with an Old but minty Browning BDA 220 Euro model and I am back in love with the 220. It's older than my old Euro 220 that I foolishly sold in the 90's, and identical except that it has "Browning" on the slide and grips and a polished finish on the higher contours. I wouldn't hesitate to acquire a compact like the one just acquired above. I'd really love to have an SAO SIG (other than my 1911) and I would bet that the SAO will do much to bring the accuracy up towards a standard DA/SA full size 220.
     
  5. Netfotoj

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    I'm not a rail fan either. My P229 SAS fits holsters and handles a lot better than the 229R model I acquired as a backup. And the SAO provides a really crisp single-action trigger. Sig says it's 5 lbs. but it feels more like 4 to me. It certainly makes me a better shooter than I normally am. The compact 220 has a 3.9" barrel, same as the 229, so I'm expecting excellent handling and accuracy.

    I got our yard work done and now I'm trying to recover enough energy to go shooting. Old age is not for sissies.

    P.S. And old age won. Maybe next Saturday I'll get the shoot the 220 compact for the first time.
     
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  6. Shooter

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    Net, is the compact easy to breakdown for cleaning like the regular 220 ? I was just talking to my buddy who loves Sigs but wants something with a thinner grip that he can carry. How many rounds???
     
  7. Netfotoj

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    Just like all Sigs, lock slide, rotate takedown lever, release slide-lock, remove. With the SRT, you have to decock the hammer as the slide reaches the normal battery position before removing the slide. If you don't you could damage the SRT.

    The compact mag holds six rounds, so 6+1 for carry. And it accepts 8 or 10-rd. Sig .45 mags.

    Still haven't had the time to give the compact a good workout for carry. I know it will be fine, but I don't carry any pistol until I've shot it with FMJs and JHPs and know it's ready for duty.
     
  8. Shooter

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    thanks Net..........looks like a keeper.................
     
  9. Netfotoj

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    I'm positive of that and haven't even shot it yet. If it's anything less than great, I'll be astonished. I made the comment to my concealed-carry class on Saturday during "show and tell" with my pistols that this is my fourth Sig pistol and I have yet to have a jam with any of them, not counting .22LR slides.

    As Sig's motto goes, that is definitely "To hell and back reliability."
     
  10. Buzz

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    Net, I've been shooting SIGs extensively since 1985. I've owned/own many of them (220's, 226's, 230, 232, 239, P6, 2340, GSR, 238) and in that time, with thousands and thousands of rounds fired, I have only had one malfunction with my 226 357 SIG (a bad mag follower which SIG quickly replaced) and few with the first two mags with my 238. Other than that performance has been flawless for going on three decades. While some question the quality of newer guns (I don't, but admit to having a preference for older West German guns) I would not hesitate to buy a SIG, especially a 220.
     
  11. Netfotoj

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    What I did when the annual gathering of Gun Nutz 'R' Us came to N.C.
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    So what did I do when the biggest national organization of Gun Nutz 'R' Us (AKA the NRA) held its annual meeting in my state?

    I had plans to go to Charlotte to become one of the 100,000 or so at that celebration of our Second Amendment rights.

    But then my daughter called and said let's go shooting.

    So that's what we did, her, my grandson, shown shooting my S&W 22A-1, my son's father-in-law Steve and me, having fun in my son's backyard shooting into the woods. My son was at a ballgame with my other two grandsons.

    That's Steve in the red shirt holding his Kimber CDP II Ultra .45 ACP and me in my shorts and Crocs, watching my grandson shoot. Big dude burned up about 200 rds. of .22LR ammo and I loved every minute of it. Loaded his own magazines and every now and then announced he needed another box of ammo. Warms the cockles of a grandfather's heart to see another gun nut growing up in the family.

    I hate I missed the big NRA doings, but actually shooting with friends and family is way better than just looking at guns and stuff and talking about it. Maybe the next time the NRA is in driving distance I'll go.

    Anyway, a fun time was had by all.
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    My daughter was interested in a home-defense handgun to go with her S&W 638 .38 Special with Crimson Trace Laser Grips, so she tried out my Taurus 65 .357 Magnum and liked it. It's been slicked up by some unknown gunsmith with a bobbed hammer, a very slick trigger job, custom wood grips and a ported barrel. The porting certainly helps with recoil and she tried it out with some Hornady Critical Defense 125-gr. .357 Magnums and declared it about the same in recoil and manageability as her S&W 638.

    So she's happy and I'm happy that the Taurus has now changed homes and hopefully will get the job done if something ever goes bump in the night at her house.

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    And I finally got the chance to try out my new Sig P220 Compact Elite, which I picked up almost a month ago and couldn't find the time to shoot it.

    The P220 Compact is a special Single-Action-Only limited edition that I got from CDNN with ambi safety for this lefty, Elite high beavertail frame, night sights, aluminum grips and perhaps the Sig Short Reset Trigger. I wasn't sure about the SRT until I shot it because Sig's labels on their factory boxes are pretty short. If a pistol has more than one or two extras, it doesn't print on the label, it just runs off the end unseen.

    But now that I've shot it, there is no doubt whatsover, this Compact P220 definitely has the SRT. I fired a few double taps and a fast string and that trigger can reset way faster than I can shoot it. Yowza!

    I even compared it to what I previously have said is the best compact .45 ACP I've ever shot, Steve's Kimber Ultra CDP II. I shot them both back to back and honest to God, I'd hate to have to live on the difference between the two. They're both the very best of compact .45s on the planet, IMHO.

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    And the P220 Compact shoots with typical Sig accuracy with 230-grain loads, for which the sights are dead-on. At one point in slow fire, I put two .45 slugs overlapping the same hole in the red bull of an 8" target at 10 yards. Woulda took a photo but I left my camera at home.

    As usual, it ran without a hiccup and even passed my ultimate test for an auto-loader, an 8-rd. magazine of four different hollow-point loads mixed up. Like Sig says, reliability to hell and back, it ate the whole magazine without a stutter. I have yet to have a jam with any of the four Sig pistols I've owned thus far (not counting the .22LR slide conversions). It's hard to complain about a record like that.

    I put about 75 rds. of hardball and about 25 rds. of mixed hollowpoints through it and I pronounce it now ready for carry duty. I suspect it's gonna be first on the duty list henceforth when I load up for work.

    I only have one complaint. Those 6-rd. magazines for the Compact P220 are just way too short. And same for the 8-rd. magazines. I take a shot or two or three and all of a sudden that darn slide is locked again. Is that six already? Or eight?

    I gotta get me some of those Sig 10-rd. P220 magazines.
     
  12. Syntax360

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    Awesome report, Net! It sucks that you had to miss the big show in town, but there's no doubt you made the right decision. :thumbsup: