Ammunition for SSG 69 .308

Discussion in 'Ammunition and Reloading' started by madfishsteve, May 25, 2011.

  1. madfishsteve

    madfishsteve New Member

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    I have just bought an SSG 69 II Police and am trying to pick peoples brains as to waht load they have used successfully for range shooting up to 600yds. Have already started my own reloads and just have been using 168 gn Sierra match heads with 42 grains of Vihtavouri 530.
    A colleague on the range also has a Steyr but SSG 08 and is having some success with 155 Hornady , but we are both having probelms at 600 yds so any help or suggestions would be most appreciated.
     
  2. RotaryMags

    RotaryMags New Member

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    What kind of problems? That's a load I'd consider using when I reload mine. What is the muzzle velocity w/ the 530?
     

  3. manni

    manni New Member

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    ...out to 600 yards (and further...) do not use a 155 grain bullet. You should go with a 168 grains or even heavier....168 grains / 180 grains Match loads work fine out to about 900 yards.
    Federal Gold Medal Match is nice and so is the Hornady TAP....
     
  4. RotaryMags

    RotaryMags New Member

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    I'm currently shooting Nosler Custom Competition 168 HP factory loads. I'm getting 1.25" groups (and better) at 200 yrds but expect to start loading for it soon.
    I'm new to the rifle and .308.
    I plan to stick to the 168gr bullets as here in Idaho, anything I shoot at will be at 300 yrds+. Just curious about powders/weights.

    This is a bit of a different animal than my old 6.5x54s, 7mmMag or 7mm Mauser...
     
  5. Wulf

    Wulf Premium Member

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  6. RotaryMags

    RotaryMags New Member

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    Thanks Wulf, lots of good info at SniperCentral.
    They seem pretty obsessed w/ the SMK 175s!
    I don't get a lot of time to reload/range test so I'm trying to kepp my development time to a minimum.
    From the published data on the Nosler CC factory loads, it looks like they are near maximum velocities/pressures.
    I think I want to dial things back just a bit.

    Right now I'm leaning towards 43-44 gr. Varget w/ a 168gr bullet (SMK or NCC) in the Nosler cases I've been buying. CCI primers.

    Any thoughts on that load, specifically for the PII-K?
     
  7. Wulf

    Wulf Premium Member

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    Hiya Rotary* :)

    I hava lit'l reload info from my Tikka T3, 22.6" bbl, 1:11 twist. I was shooting 165 and 168 gr HPBT's and using Varget. My best loads for accuracy with Varget was about 42 gr's. I COL'd at 2.80" and mostly use the collet neck die for resizing my brass.

    I found that less than 42 gr's of Varget opened up my groups from the bench atta 100 yds, as did more then 42 gr's.

    Of course, a 25" bbl with a 1:12 twist will make a difference, as will adjusting your COL, if appropriate. "Apples & Oranges", kind of thing. <shrug>

    I'm notta bigtime long range bench competitor and never found a need to shoot over a couple hundred yards at Colorado deer and elk, so I may be of lit'l or no use to you for 600 yd + reloading data.

    Sorry. <shrug>

    On another note, I switched over to 43 gr's of RL-15, COL 2.80" for my hunting loads...and went to 165 gr Sierra GameKings for the hunt. My groups are more consistent from the bench atta 100 yds with the RL-15, compared to the Varget in my Tikka.

    Anyway, g'luck, Bro. :thumbsup:

    Wulf

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  8. LinzTexas

    LinzTexas New Member

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    Where are the times not pondering about ammo but using the Hirtenberger rounds that came with the rifle ... sorry, just a moment of nostalgia.
     
  9. skunkkiller

    skunkkiller New Member

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    I'm shooting the SSG 08 chambered in .308, my winter pet load consists of:
    Lapua Brass;
    Lapua 155 Scenar that I moly coat myself;
    Vihtavuori N150 Powder 47.0 Grains
    Federal Gold Medal Match primers
    25k jump (ogive)
    2980 FPS Muzzle

    i weigh my bullets individually and separate them. I use a K&M primer tool with gage and seat my primers just below the depth of the case head. I use a K&M primer pocket uniformer and a K&M flash hole chamfer tool. Remember that I'm moly coating my bullets which makes my bullets slicker thus I need the extra powder to achieve those same velocities. Don't use this powder charge with bullets not coated.

    My my gun, with this load, is consistently shooting groups at and below 1.3 inches at 500 yards. My my summer load is a 1/2 grain lighter with the same powder and I've developed a load with VV N140 with 45.5 grains of powder which shoots equally well but is not as consistent and which falls further outside the velocity node of this rifle. I shoot this rifle out to 1250 yards (100, 200, 300, 500, 600, 750, 1000, 1250) and it's staying at 1/2 MOA or less at those longer ranges.

    I've simply not found a 168 gr. bullet that shoots as consistent as these Lapua 155's. Yes they're lighter and more affected by wind but they're also getting to the target quicker and are affected by wind for less time. Most .308 rifles are struggling to remain supersonic at 1000 yards anyway. The 168 just contributes to that struggle. The only place these Scenars are under-performing is at short ranges less than 300 yards but all boat tail and hybrids suffer at short ranges.

    The trick is weighing each bullet and separating them. A typical box of Lapua 155 Scenars after weighing individually will be divided in 4 or 5 bins. My experience with Hornady VMAX and Berger Hybrids is that I will need 15 to 18 bins to separate them which says big things about bullet consistency by Lapua bullets versus others and the need to separate.